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      Look at the organization. Are they at risk in a Christo-fascist theocracy?

      No?

      Weird.

      When we stop clutching pearls and understand that fascists want fascism we can know better what must be done. It works for all sorts of things. Racists like racism. Bad actors act badly.

      People with a healthy amount of empathy will always give the benefit of doubt because they have a healthy amount of empathy. Stop listening to people’s words, start watching how they behave.

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        Everybody wanted to see Biden crush trump on the debate stage. Biden created this event for exactly that purpose. He exposed himself, and the immediate attacks are absolutely justified.

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    Why is trump not in prison right now? I thought he was convicted on thirty something counts of felonies a couple months ago.

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      Sentencing is on July 11th. He probably won’t see prison time, but one can dream.

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    Next time, the candidates should get wired up, and a team of fact-checkers should get buttons labeled “that was a lie”, shocking the candidate ever harder the more experts agree.

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    Meanwhile, all the MAGA trolls can do is focus on how bad Biden came off. Dude is a fossil, true- but I’d vote for a fossilized fossil of a fossilized fossil before I’d throw away a vote and allow America to be led by a fascist.

    Also… everyone take note on how all the bots are out today trying to persuade everyone not to vote. This shit is fuel for them. Call them out!

    VOTE LIKE LIVES DEPEND ON IT- BECAUSE THEY DO.

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      If our lives depending on it then you would agree that a younger and more capable candidate should replace Biden then, right?

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        What a shit take when so much is at stake for so many people. Stop being selfish man. Do this for those that ABSOLUTELY will suffer under Trump.

        Or be blamed for everthing he does.

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          So if you want to protect these people then you absolutely would want a younger, more electable candidate to beat trump, right?

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            This logical fallacy is called “Denying the Correlative”. It’s basically the opposite of a False Dilemma. In this electoral system, there are two statistically relevant choices: supporting Biden OR supporting Trump. Right-wing voters are consistent, making voting third-party or withholding one’s vote mathematically equivalent to supporting Trump.

            It sucks and it’s bullshit but disliking reality does not make it any less true.

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              You are just plain old dead wrong, and the one pushing a fallacy (i.e.fakse dichotomy) is you. The THIRD and most logical and reasonable choice is for Biden to step aside and let a viable candidate represent the Democrats.

              I cant help but notice that you and the other guy keep deliberately avoiding that one.

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    Gee…

    If only someone had warned everyone that doing away with the bipartisan debate commission and letting the party’s and CNN run everything was a shit idea…

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    Republicans have hammered on the “liberal bias” point for decades so that they can claim victimhood anytime they’re subject to the slightest scrutiny. The whole of the media has to treat them with kid gloves or take a hit in the ratings, which is basically illegal due to fiduciary laws.

    The whole political ecosystem of the US, not just government itself but the press and lobbying, just isn’t built to handle the epidemic of bad-faith actors (mostly corporatist and on the right) we have today. Lobbying used to mean interest groups educating elected officials so they could make informed decisions, now it’s just legalized bribery.

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    We have a political environment that lacks credible independent commentators (e.g. Walter Cronkite), so anyone presenting themselves as independent who calls bullshit on a politico is immediately labeled as biased.

    What mechanism do you think could overcome this and pull the mic plug to reduce the incentive to lie without immediately being vigorously attacked?

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    If facts mattered, Trump wouldn’t be leading in the polls, let’s be honest. Nothing CNN said to fact check would matter for those who need to hear it because they’ve already been indoctrinated to believe CNN won’t be truthful anyway.

    This entire debate was about optics: can Trump keep himself together, and can Biden ward off criticism of his senility? To Trump’s credit, he outperformed. Biden did not. And since Biden volunteered this debate, this is on him.

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      When will you people wake up and realize that places like CNN have lied to you time and time again? At this point it’s just living in denial. Look at how many times they’ve told you Joe is sharp as tack, or that nobody around him can keep up. Republicans have known that was a lie for a long time. Places like Fox have been honest about it, just like the laptop story CNN,Biden, and others were lying about every day

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        Fox has been honest huh. heh. Ok.

        They were honest about that terrorist fist jab too weren’t they. And, I dunno, eleventy billion other things they were honest about.

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        Nobody cares what Republicans say. They think covid is a hoax, vaccines are bad, nuking hurricanes is a good idea, and that 2020 was stolen. If you think CNN has problems, look in a fucking mirror.

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          Lol, what news have you been watching? I don’t think covid was a hoax, vaccines aren’t bad in general, and nuking hurricanes just sounds ridiculous! Where did you hear that? Lol

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            You say that like you didn’t literally mention the news source that said all of that. Or maybe you just forgot already. Clearly got some screws loose if you think Fox News is a trustworthy source.