• hydroptic@sopuli.xyzOP
      7·
      5 months ago

      Yeah could well be, in addition to a case of “surely the leopards won’t eat my face”

      • Coasting0942@reddthat.com
        3·
        5 months ago

        It’s a super risky strategy. If you win the outcome lottery then you’ll be accepted as one of the good ones.

        But it’s a lot more likely that you’ll be arrested too after having made the lives of everybody like you worse.

        Humans decisions being a statistical distribution will have some people who can’t properly make this risk calculation.

        It’s the same energy as women siding with the misogynists.

    • hydroptic@sopuli.xyzOP
      5·
      5 months ago

      Yay thank you. I don’t like posting stuff like this without attribution and my image searches just kept turning up imgur and reddit links

      • Evkob@lemmy.ca
        2·
        5 months ago

        I’ll be honest, I just went into the comments of one of those reddit links and scrolled down until I saw someone share the artist’s name :P

        • hydroptic@sopuli.xyzOP
          1·
          5 months ago

          Ah, I couldn’t be arsed after a couple of links because I got tired copy-pasting the link and then changing reddit.com to https://redlib.kittywi.re/ – my whole IP range is banned from reddit for whatever reason so I can’t browse it without redlib even if I was so inclined. Well at least without an account, which I don’t have.

  • disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world
    6·
    5 months ago

    Ignorant straight cisgendered ally question- Is this really a thing? Is there a wedge between sexuality and gender advocacy?

    • Ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone
      6·
      5 months ago

      The majority of conservative cis LGB folk think that their version of queerness is ok, but other types are not. Anti trans LGB folk are one version of this

      • disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world
        5·
        5 months ago

        That’s awful. Just enough acceptance for them, and fuck everyone else. It must take a complete lack of empathy.

        • samus12345@lemmy.worldEnglish
          2·
          5 months ago

          It must take a complete lack of empathy.

          That was already stated. “Conservative” cis LGB folk.

          • disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world
            2·
            5 months ago

            I’m sure. People listen to me because I’m a straight white man, whether I deserve their attention or not, so I leverage that to support people who are oppressed.

            I speak out against hate of every kind. I ask questions like this because it’s important to know where it comes from to determine the appropriate response. This I didn’t see or expect, but it makes sense now that it’s been described. I appreciate the explanation.

            • MindTraveller@lemmy.caEnglish
              2·
              5 months ago

              Often it’s fear. They think if they’re a perfect, respectable minority, they can appeal to the kindness of queerphobes and win rights through sympathy. Sometimes it’s even trauma. Gay guy is used to being called a girl for his gayness, and is triggered to see a trans woman willingly taking that on. Or trans person is used to hearing helicopter copypastas and thinks otherkin are conservative trolls. In both cases, they’re used to being attacked with the idea of more marginalised queers, and think they can switch sides to the oppressor’s corner if they disavow the smaller minority

        • LinkOpensChest.wav@lemmy.blahaj.zone
          2·
          5 months ago

          I’m not sure where you live, but I’ve definitely encountered them in my extremely conservative state. Even here, they’re a small group though.

          Even being a small group, I feel like it’s still a problem because hate groups like the Republican Party can parade them around when convenient (until they are no longer useful – then see comic in post).

          • sparkle@lemm.eeCymraeg
            1·
            5 months ago

            Can confirm, trans-exclusionary gay/bi people are fucking everywhere in (rural) Georgia in the US. I think the ones who are out who are “anti-trans” outnumber the normal ones.

    • hydroptic@sopuli.xyzOP
      1·
      5 months ago

      Unlike what some commenters have said, it’s absolutely not just “a Twitter thing”. Eg. one of Finland’s new MEPs is exactly this sort of person; a gay man dating an immigrant, but who belongs to an extremist right-wing party. He hates trans people, and like all conservative LGBT+ folks he is so oblivious that he apparently completely misses the fact that were his party to actually have their way, they would literally murder him for not being straight, and at best deport his boyfriend if they didn’t send him to the same extermination camp

    • Delphia@lemmy.world
      0·
      5 months ago

      Yeah, I have a gay buddy who is very supportive of most aspects of LGBTQI+ but HATES when people try to make kinks part of what he believes the culture is. “Leather harnesses, Fursuits and getting your dick or tits out in public has nothing to do with being gay.”

      Which I kind of get, but more historically speaking is also kind of wack because straight kink communities were some of the earliest supporters of gay rights. Gay peoples opinions like a rainbow are also a broad spectrum.

      • Julian@lemm.eeEnglish
        1·
        5 months ago

        I think the important thing is to just realize that you can be accepting of something even if you don’t personally want to be involved with it. And on the flip side, some people just don’t want to be a part of certain groups, and that’s OK too.

  • iAvicenna@lemmy.world
    1·
    5 months ago

    these people know nothing. In a religious anti lgbt demonstration in Turkey some of the more fundamentalist groups started a fight with casual conservatives for playing their music too loud cause they deemed it was inappropriate. lol.