The quote:

“Given Joe Biden’s incredible record, given Donald Trump’s terrible record: he should be mopping the floor with Donald Trump. Joe Biden is running against a criminal. It should not be even close. And there is only one reason it is close. And that is the president’s age.”

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      If he runs, he loses. Thats the reality all of the data we have paints for us.

      He passes the torch like, maybe next week at the latest, or Trump is the next President.

      Biden wasn’t capable of beating Trump before the debate; he’s less capable after.

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    It’s interesting, this farce and display of pride and ego. All Biden has to do is one of two things:

    1. Go all- in. Set up another debate. Make sure he’s top of his game. Go full Dark Brandon and absolutely wipe the floor. Then apologize AFTER doing this for his previous bad performance. Do this right, reaaally sell it, and he’ll come out the other side in a better position. Do it wrong and it’ll hurt his campaign even more. Trump doesn’t even have to show up. The point is giving Biden the same opportunity to step up. Toss in some late night talk shows with hard questions. When you have trust to gain back you have to work twice as hard.

    2. Be a leader and talk to us all. Put forth a nominee to take his place. Work with them on the campaign trail and truly ask all of us to step up for our Nation, as one.

    AND YET we appear to be getting some silly asinine middle-of-the-road choice.

    I like Biden for many of the policies and steps he and his administration have taken these last four years. They’ve done good and sometimes even great things, and made mistakes and done bad things too. Over all, he’s been far from the worst President. Now though is the time to step aside as a leader, or rise into that position and take control.

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      He can’t “fix this” the same way he hid it.

      The catch 22 he is in, is that he has to very publicly demonstrate to us that the debate was a fluke. The problem, is performances like his Stephanopoulos interview simply affirm the conclusion that he’s a deeply out of touch grumpy old man who can keep track of his own thoughts for the duration of a conversation. His: recovery’ interview, I mean it wasn’t as bad that the debate, but it did still dig the hole deeper.

      So if you can go ‘show’ how this isn’t a problem because you make the problem worse, you have to concede.

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        The reason given in the article is “Because I, Adam Schiff, think so” - all the hard data we have (competive polls, opinion polls, historical references) gives a pretty bleak outlook for a Harris presidency.

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            I think that’s a fair miscommunication. I was asking for a data driven citation while you were providing a quote citation. I agree that Adam Schiff almost certainly said that, but my question is why he thinks that (or, as I’d suspect, why he’s lying).

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              Its an article about what a politician said. The politician said that thing. I think you and your buddies lack reading comprehension.

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            He’s not asking for the citation for the quote. He’s asking for the citation of the veracity of the assertion. We know Adam Schiff said the thing. What matters is the justification for saying the thing.

            With no data to justify it (and plenty available showing it’s not true), this is just further evidence Democratic leadership is stuck in the mindset of political battles from 30 years ago. If Trump were running in the political reality of the 90s with his current background and record, even current Biden would mop the floor with him. But we’re not in the age of the party of Gingrich. This is the party of Trump, and facts and record don’t matter to Trump voters and Republicans in general. Welcome to 21st century American politics, Mr. Schiff.