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    4 months ago

    But no sd card, or changeable battery, or audio jack. Vote with your wallets. I like moto G series, but edge lines are terrible

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      Yeah, it’s unfortunate sdcard is not a staple feature in higher midrange and flagship smartphones.

      User replaceable batteries may make a comeback due to EU regulation.

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        Changable batteries, maybe, for the environment. But I’ve never used a phone long enough for this to matter because unoptimized software starts crippling phones after 4 years anyway.

        This is absolute bollocks. Unless you are buying dogshit budget phones, they all continue to run fine after 4 years. I have phones from 2017 and 2018 that continue to operate without major issue today. Until very recently most Android phones weren’t even receiving feature updates beyond 4 years so I suspect you’ve just completely fabricated this story to justify your upgrades.

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          One phone in my family is a 2017 2018 flagship, and people are amazed how snappy it is (they don’t know it’s from 2018).

          Its running a fork of Lineage, with 2 or 3gb of ram (I forget). Because it’s so optimized, even with a bunch of apps (~200), it’s fast and battery does pretty well.

          Old phones can run fine, but they have to be managed to do so.

          Edit: 2018 flagship.

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            Yeah, LineageOS can definitely help a lot. I have a Redmi Note 4X from 2017 with 3 GB RAM and a Snapdragon 625. It was fine running an older version of MIUI despite being a budget phone, but after switching to LineageOS it runs even better. But to be honest you don’t even need a lighter ROM like LineageOS if the phone was a good one at release. I also have a Galaxy Note 9 from 2018 which is running stock and that still feels great despite how heavy OneUI is. Often these older devices just need a reset to clear out all the junk that accumulates over years of use.

            I think the questions over whether some newer phones can handle five or even seven Android version upgrades are valid, since that has never been attempted before (though I still like to see those commitments). But that is very different to saying every phone until now has magically turned terrible after 4 years, when it’s likely only running a version of Android that is, at most, two above what it started with.

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                The OnePlus 12 was released less than a year ago. It has 3 1/2 years of software changes ahead of it. You are proving my point here by implying a 7 month old phone needs to be replaced after a single bad update.

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        I don’t even really care about fast charging. As long it can fully charge while I’m asleep I don’t care if it takes all night.

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    If someone offers the slimmest phone, I have some doubts regarding structural integrity. Especially, the way I (unintentionally) often treat my phone, it’ll probably bend or break within weeks.

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      But, this one offers Military grade certification for durability. This should be better than other slim smartphones.

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        Military grade impresses everyone but those who served.

        In the mind of a soldier military grade is the cheapest, mass produced item that barely does the job, can be abandoned on the battlefield without regrets 😅

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        Is that a protected term where you live? In Germany a lot of products, including the cheapest and crappiest ones, are advertised as military grade and that doesn’t give any indication on quality or durability.

        e.g.

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          I searched amazon and could not find a single smartphone with MIL-STD-810H certification atleast not in my region – india. It’s super rare if you can even find one.

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            I have no clue what that standard certifies but I was able to find several such phones immediately on the German Amazon like this one for 140€ (around $150 right now) from a brand that I never heard of.

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      It’s a point of difference in a segment of the market where phones are often thick and heavy.

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      I’ve been realizing over the past weeks that phone weight in my hand significantly influences how I type, so I would indeed like a lighter phone. This one does catch my eye.