• dhork@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    NYT is reporting on a hastily arranged call of the DNC finance committee today with some big donors. I don’t see a non-paywalled source about it, but I assume it is happening.

    That is a hugely important meeting because if Biden’s donors say they will not support the campaign financially anymore, that will be one of the dominoes that would need to fall to get Biden to back out. Campaigns are expensive, and Trump’s fundraising is focused on his campaign as third priority, after paying his legal bills and Trump himself.

    I’m not really sure whether Biden can pull this off or not, but his chances are zero if his big donors stop giving.

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      Campaigns are expensive,

      Moderate Dem campaigns are expensive in that they need big money donors to convince voters to hold their noses.

      Progressive Dem campaigns are essentially free because the voters themselves are donating the bulk of the money.

      The same efforts spent to get voters, naturally gets donors.

      I don’t think people realize how much time and effort Biden and the DNC put into getting these big fundraisers with George Clooney when it’s a completely unnecessary step.

      It shouldn’t take 2 billion dollars to get more votes than trump, but that’s what its been projected to cost to get Biden back in the White House. And that was before America saw him at the debate…

      If the DNC is doing things behind the scenes, it’s probably to re-route the big incoming dark money push to make sure it’ll still land on a party favorite.

      Last election it was 64 million in a single donation that no one knows where it came from…

      Yet in the summer of 2020, when a blandly named entity called the Impetus Fund received a $64 million donation from a single anonymous source, it touched off a guessing game with broad political implications.

      That single anonymous donation, routed through a series of accounts, eventually would be used to help Joe Biden defeat Donald Trump in the 2020 presidential election. Critics say it has come to illustrate an increasingly opaque system of funding elections that in 2024 could reach a scale that dwarfs all previous election cycles.

      https://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-64-million-mystery-anonymous-donations-2024-presidential-campaign/

      We can’t just blindly keep supporting anyone that’s not a Republican. We’ve been doing it for a long time and it’s not fucking working.

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    5 months ago

    The baffling part is how not only are we stuck with a two party system that keeps any significant changes from getting a foot hold, but also how we have so few choices with the parties we have. In a country of millions of leaders in various forms, we have nothing to pick from outside of Biden, and he’s potentially losing to someone with Trump’s long track record of failure both in politics and business. Remember when Trump running for office used to be a regular late night show joke for years?

    The only hope for change in politics is local races, and even lots of those are pretty sad. “Get out and vote”, yeah, but years of doing that hasn’t really helped much, so pardon my pessimism. I’m not George Carlin level just yet, but I always understood his point.

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        Systemically nigh impossible due to spoilering effect, wasted votes, gerrymandering and so on under FPTP. Even then all would happen is the new party replacing on of the existing ones and still stuck with two party system.

        YouTube, cgpgrey, animal Kingdom votes videos.

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          It’s too late for a third party in 2024, but it’s the perfect time to get people talking about 2028.

          If we don’t, we’re gonna be right back here in 2028 talking about how it’s too late.

          This is when people are paying attention and desperate for any other option.

          Planning ahead is the path forward, we can’t just keep reacting every four years then ignoring it again.

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            Didn’t the Democratic Party crush any hope of RCV even when it passes on the ballot? I mean i expect that from republicans, but it seems it is a rare bipartisan effort to prevent it from ever happening.

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              Why would they want RCV to happen?

              In it’s current state neither party has accountability from their own voters.

              They can literally do anything they want, raise billions of dollars and be practically free from any accountability because the parties aren’t officially government agencies.

              When corruption happens at the party level, it’s literally “totally legal, and totally cool”.

              The people who would rise to power in such a system, will never give it up it willingly. And anyone that isn’t corrupt, faces near impossible odds.

              Look at AIPAC just dropping 15 million on a House seat primary. How are voters supposed to compete in a primary like that, and what are they supposed to do in a general?

              Not vote Dem so the Republican that also takes AIPAC money wins? They’re not even the only ones doing it, they’re just the ones paying the most openly.

              Our system is fucked and we can’t keep waiting “one more election” to openly acknowledge it.

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    Biden’s campaign and his family are the only ones defending him, and now his family is turning on the campaign…

    Among the most vocal: Jill Biden and son Hunter, whom the president has long gone to for counsel and advice. Both believe the president shouldn’t bow out when he’s down, and believe that he can come back from what they see as one subpar performance. The family questioned how he was prepared for the debate by staff and wondered if they could have done something better, the people said.

    Like, why the fuck is Hunter Biden involved in these decisions?

    This is the one time voters actually want the party to put their fingers on the scales, and they just fucking won’t.

    They’d rather risk trump then turn on Biden, because he appointed the current DNC leadership.

    And if a Dem doesn’t win the general, they get to vote to maintain the current leadership.

    Who are obviously incredibly incompetent. If Biden wins, he’s keeping them all for their loyalty.

    The party top concern isn’t stopping trump, it’s maintaining their personal power over one of the only two political parties in America, that’s supposed to raise 2 billion just for Biden’s campaign this cycle.

    They’re in it for the money, not to save America.

    We can’t keep putting our future in their hands.