The Libertarian Party’s presidential nominee condemned the post
  • nkat2112@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    162·
    2 months ago

    The article is truly representative of a sleazy drama - and that’s putting it nice. We learn that Oliver condemned the post:

    Chase Oliver, the Libertarian Party’s presidential nominee, condemned the since-deleted post.

    That’s great.

    But then the LPNH responded - to him - their candidate leader, I stress… as follows:

    The Libertarian Party of New Hampshire responded to Oliver’s statement, telling him to “f*** off” and “read any book on libertarianism.” They went on to call him a homophobic slur.

    It’s seemingly out of The Onion - except it’s for real.

      • SkyezOpen@lemmy.world
        34·
        2 months ago

        American libertarianism is great. Most of them have vastly different ideas of what libertarianism is or should be, and none of those ideas work.

      • AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.netEnglish
        5·
        2 months ago

        Seconding this book recommendation. I started skim reading it a few months ago, and it was so entertaining it pulled me in.

      • nilloc@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
        3·
        2 months ago

        Hey hey, many of those dipshits moved into NH to try and take over the state because we already had slightly crazy politics.

        Because NH has 400 stare representatives (and 24 more state senators), it’s easy to get morons elected in small towns. As with most libertarian “plans” though, it didn’t work for very long.

        • danc4498@lemmy.worldEnglish
          2·
          2 months ago

          I always wonder why democrats don’t form a plan to take over Wyoming. It’s a very small state. Get together 100k people to move out there over the course of the next decade or so. It’s a lovely state too.

      • danc4498@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        2 months ago

        From what I read, it seemed like the problem was more with libertariansthan it was with libertarianism.

        Like, the type of person that would leave their homes to live in a town they read about online that promises a libertarian mecha… of course it’s gonna fail. I bet if you get similar demographics of dudes that support Bernie Sanders, that town would fail too.

        I don’t doubt that Libertarianism would be terrible for 99% of people, and incredible for 1%, but I doubt it would fail this spectacularly.

        • Eldritch@lemmy.worldEnglish
          5·
          2 months ago

          The problem is that American Libertarians aren’t libertarian. They’re masquerading economic liberals.

          The reason their government has failed and always will fail. Is because they are against government itself. All but the most dogmatic, ideological, and importantly antisocial anarchist and actual libertarians recognize the need for government and it’s existence. They just believe it should be largely flat, answerable, and as much as possible based in consent. Even national/federal goverment is acceptable depending on structure and ability.

          American Libertarians only support government that protects their personal privilege. And nothing else.

          And while it’s possible for any group to fail. No other group self sabotages so completely from the start.

    • SupraMario@lemmy.world
      30·
      2 months ago

      Because the LP of NH isn’t more than a bunch of bigots and racist hiding behind the LP name. It’s like the worst people from every party decided to go and join it.

  • madcaesar@lemmy.world
    65·
    2 months ago

    Guy threatens to assassinate presidential candidate

    Cops: I sleep

    Guy steals 3.50$ subway fare

    Cops: Real shit!

  • xmunk@sh.itjust.works
    61·
    2 months ago

    Libertarians are truly the most oppressed minority.

    NH Libertarians describing themselves

    Yall chucklefucks do know that that saying is meant to be used derisively, right? Fuck, even African/Native American trans folks don’t genuinely refer to themselves as “the most oppressed minority” and you fucks certainly aren’t more oppressed than them.

    Also, just for anyone who isn’t aware the NH Libertarians are famously batshit insane beyond MAGA or regular Libertarians.

  • Zier@fedia.io
    59·
    2 months ago

    Libertarians are just another sect of the GOP. They are the same party.

    • APassenger@lemmy.world
      24·
      2 months ago

      I think that’s been the Russian plan. Break cohesion and let us flounder. Murdock, whether he fully knows it or not, is useful to that end.

    • TriflingToad@lemmy.world
      7·
      2 months ago

      honestly im kinda surprised we didn’t get a lot of violence when trump lost in 2020

      edit: I meant a full civil war

      • Sconrad122@lemmy.world
        9·
        2 months ago

        From memory and a couple quick Google searches

        • January 6th, including both the violence at the national Capitol and related, often violent protests outside verious state capitols
        • Death threats to election count and poll workers
        • Republican legislator invites armed men into the Oregon State Capitol during a protest
        • Armed protestors rally around the tallying center in Detroit while the count was ongoing
        • Brawl with counterprotestors at the “million Maga march”
        • Violent “Stop the steal” protests in Sacramento

        I wouldn’t say there was just a little violence after the 2020 loss

    • 【J】【u】【s】【t】【Z】@lemmy.world
      2·
      2 months ago

      Have you been there?

      In terms of “states” I lump New Hampshire in with Vermont. There’s something about the people in the region that blurs the border; you cannot tell when you’ve crossed from one state to the next, save for the signs or by checking your position on a map. Their defining feature is the piles of garbage in their front yards, as natural to the landscape as rocks. The half-built cars, the half-destroyed cars; the falling-down outbuildings, roofs covered with blue tarps, one after another; the metal monstrosities, talking about like “oh let’s take this snow groomer, and strap an airplane body to the top, leave it in the front yard for the next sixty years.” And this is just what you can see from the road. These are houses with curb appeal. The real weird shit is at the houses and dilapidated outbuildings that you can’t see from the road. Gotta get three or four locals together to make a full set of teeth. YMMV.

      • WoahWoah@lemmy.world
        3·
        2 months ago

        Most of Vermont and NH is nothing like this. I’ve lived there, near Brattleboro (which is literally on the border with NH), in the upper northeastern part of the state near NH in the middle of nowhere, and in Montpelier. I drove around VT and NH pretty extensively.

        I also had a girlfriend that lived in Hanover, NH so was driving up there a lot; Hanover is admittedly unique in NH. I ski, MTB, hike, 4 wheel, snowmobile, hunt, and fish, so I’ve truly crawled around a large majority of the entirety of both states.

        There are extremely rural locations in both states that look like many rural places anywhere in the United States – in fact, much nicer than many of the rural places in the US I’ve been down south and in the upper Midwest. I’ve literally never seen “piles of garbage” in front yards during the thousands of miles I’ve traveled around the states. I have seen trucks and ATVs being worked on in in various stages of disassembly in yards in the backwoods, but that’s how it is in the backwoods. You’re not exactly going to bring it to a mechanic.

        That said, there is a very clear difference between NH and VT. While many parts of NH are quite nice, I would agree that there are some parts of NH that mildly fit your description. There are less places like that in VT, but I suppose if you looked hard enough, you’d find them.

        But overall, your characterization doesn’t fit either of the states. They’re both beautiful New England states. I intend to move back to Vermont in the next few years because it’s so pleasant.

        Where are you living in NH/VT? I find your descriptions completely bizarre.

        • 【J】【u】【s】【t】【Z】@lemmy.world
          1·
          2 months ago

          I only vacation there and usually only to rural places for wilderness activities, hunting or fishing, exploring, though I think I’ve visited most of the cities. I should have said I was not talking about the cities. And yes, absolutely, lots of great towns mixed throughout both states. I think it’s the fact that I’m mostly looking for remote places when I visit.

  • captainlezbian@lemmy.world
    13·
    2 months ago

    I cannot imagine a situation in which Kamala Harris is assassinated that doesn’t end in either president walz or a coup.

    Assassination is politically unpopular even against unpopular candidates, and Walz seems extremely popular.

    • OlinOfTheHillPeople@lemmy.world
      32·
      2 months ago

      This isn’t an American problem, it’s a conservative problem. I guarantee it’s happening wherever you live as well. Hopefully not as loudly though

        • ripcord@lemmy.world
          17·
          2 months ago

          Yep, no racism and bigotry in China, India, Russia, Brazil, Pakistan, UK, etc etc. Doesn’t exist.

          It’s also not “normal” in the US.

            • ripcord@lemmy.world
              8·
              2 months ago

              I picked a handful of examples, which among other things, comprise most of the people in the world.

              You’re saying that they don’t have significant racism, bigotry, and/or crazy right-wing or fascist movements?

  • Embargo@lemm.ee
    11·
    2 months ago

    I have a feeling that Oliver is not going to be elected as the party president… considering the whole being a insert homophobic slur here and all.