Anon learns about Material Conditions.
How come none of these nutcases ever go shoot a billionaire or two instead of random Innocents?
We can’t have gun control - guns aren’t the problem - people are.
Oh good - you support the creation of strong social safety nets, and free access to mental health care, right?
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You support the creation of strong social safety nets, and free access to mental health care, right?
“Guy with shit circumstances decides to buy a gun and decides to go somewhere with the gun and decides to shoot undeserving people with the gun, it’s society’s fault”
Way to blame the victim anon. No, this was his decision. I know folks who have life shitting all over them and it doesn’t make them want to kill children and families.
It’s both. Even terrible people with something to lose are less likely to throw it all away.
If this guy makes $35k a year at dollar general, he probably doesn’t go on a murder spree.
But you could also just not be an asshole. Why go after random people instead of someone who actually helps cause the bullshit?
You’re right, we should be targeting the bourgeois, aristocrats and ultra rich with our killing sprees. What we need are eco terrorists, not senseless killings.
Fuck that. We don’t need terrorists at all.
the guy wants “good” terrorist he advocates while wiping the doritos off his desk and washing down his everclear with sugar free juice.
the child who is not embraced by its village will burn it down just to feel its warmth
There are also millions of people with intellectual challenges and horrid childhoods who do NOT go out and murder people.
100% this is such a bad strawman.
Dude, wait that’s not right! We have to blame the guns, obviously, not society. With enough “thoughts and prayers” and some extra helpings of gun control laws, no one will be desperate or depressed or rageful enough to hurt people! Don’t bring your logic or nuance into the conversation or someone could get confused!
Yeah all we need is a good guy with a gun. Maybe a guy from the navy. No one from the military ever goes on a shooting rampage…
Maybe if we can remove…idk…the method ppl use to kill large amounts of people. No no we cant do that someone might accuse you of blaming guns.
I got it. Let’s blame “society” and mental health so we can sidestep the whole icky shooting people subject and continue to do nothing about guns or mental health or society.
Great answer. Way to put a flag somewhere.
As if the 2a movement gives a fuck about nuance…lmfao
Braindead.
And what of the vast majority of shooters who don’t have such shit circumstances? Lmfao.
Columbine? Las Vegas?
What about the straight up racists going on killing sprees? Aka white people who listen to too much am radio and YouTube?
Congrats, you’ve cherry picked one of like two well known shooters who were like this. Quit victim blaming you rotten fuck.
Edit: For more visibility. I’ve been to my fair share of active threat conferences, meetings, trainings, etc.
There is no single profile for a mass shooter. Your best chance at getting any one thing correct about them is that they’re male. 94% chance.
According to the FBI, there is no single warning sign, checklist,or algorithm to identify a mass shooter before an attack.
How about some possible profiles?
This profile includes characteristics such as:
• A young white male who feels entitled and has been bullied
• Access to guns in the home
• An honor roll student from a good community
• Intolerant attitudes toward racial or religious minorities
• Possesses a superiority attitude
• Poor coping skills
• Exhibits distorted thinking relative to the negativity he perceives from others
PDF Warnings:
https://lhatrustfunds.com/assets/uploads/documents/FBI-Profile-Active-Shooter.pdf
https://www.fbi.gov/file-repository/pre-attack-behaviors-of-active-shooters-in-us-2000-2013.pdf/view
Okay, what about mental health aspects? Yes, suicidality is an incredible predictor. But guess what? It’s only there in 30% of cases prior to the shooting.
Suicidality was found to be a strong predictor of perpetration of mass shootings. Of all mass shooters in the The Violence Project database, 30% were suicidal prior to the shooting. An additional 39% were suicidal during the shooting. Those numbers were significantly higher for younger shooters, with K-12 students who engaged in mass shootings found to be suicidal in 92% of instances and college/university students who engaged in mass shooting suicidal 100% of the time.
Oh no it must’ve been trauma then! Everyone knows someone who suffered abuse is more likely to abuse right!? No.
In terms of past trauma, 31% of persons who perpetrated mass shootings were found to have experiences of severe childhood trauma, and over 80% were in crisis
Want to know the real profile? Massive change in personality. Wants access to guns. They’ll TELL someone they’re thinking about hurting others. Loneliness.
NONE of which requires anything even remotely mentioned in that farce of a greentext lol.
The people dismissing this somewhat miss the bigger picture, that statistically this had to happen because there are so many like him there.
Though I’m not sure why this guy calls the act ‘fantastic’, I doubt even the shooter thought what he did was fantastic, unless I’m out of the loop…
Fantastic could mean unusual or extraordinary.
I think by fantastic the 4channer meant “newsworthy”, or “that really affects people’s lives”. The chances of someone with that kind of background doing something fantastic in a good sense is really small
In this context I read fantastic in a morally indifferent sense, as in it set him apart from others and allowed him to leave an impression on the world, albeit a hugely harmful one.
“cruz” could have done many other things than work as a retail slave. many jobs dont require anything but muscles and a desire to learn.
Dont glamourize mass murderers.Dont even publish their names, publish the names of the victims.
True, also make any lethal weapon illegal in usa
We can make it harder to get a gun. But there are so many already in the US its difficult to rein that back in.
No, I say illegal, not harder to get.
