• PunchingBag@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Grusch claimed early on that he had tried to reach out to AARO *specifically Kirkpatrick, not AARO, for years before the whistleblower hotline came available. He also claims he tried repeatedly leading up to his tapping the hotline, and he was routinely ignored. This unfortunately tracks with AARO’s public face Kirkpatrick; they have expressed more than once that they do not follow up on the majority of tips they receive as they discount them as “not credible.”

    It’s his word against Kirkpatrick, in this case, and Kirkpatrick has not shown a great deal of willing, or even interest, in this regard.

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      I am behind on some of the details, but here’s a glaring and easy inconsistency: The AARO was established in July 2022. How would it have been possible for Grusch to have been trying to reach out to them “for years” when they haven’t existed even for a year?

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        Coulthart asked him specifically about Kirkpatrick’s statements that there is “no credible evidence” for any extraterrestrial technology.

        I just rewatched the relevant clip from the Coulthart interview. Grusch stated that he knew Kirkpatrick for 8+ years, before AARO. He stated specifically that he informed Kirkpatrick in an attempt to draw attention, and that Kirkpatrick never followed up with him. He goes on to say that Kirkpatrick could have done all the same investigations that he, Grusch, had, but chose not to for whatever reason.

        So not AARO generally, but Kirkpatrick specifically is who Grusch referred to. I amended my comment to compensate for my bad memory.

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      It seems totally plausible that the majority of tips are nonsense, or at best vague. Especially if other collections of people’s sightings are anything to go by.

      But if Grusch is as legit as he seems, his repeated attempts being overlooked is quite the oversight.

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    “AARO has yet to find any credible evidence”. Not saying that they haven’t heard of or come across any evidence of reverse engineering programs, just that they haven’t deemed any credible. Phrasing is always important in written statements like this. I’m not suggesting to read between the lines, because people will just fill it in with their own beliefs. But, when you see specific language like that or the use of “extraterrestrial” instead of NHI, you are potentially seeing them covering themselves with uncertainty. It’s hard to say something is “extraterrestrial”, but it’s not hard to say it’s NHI. The same way they can’t say for sure if evidence is “credible” or not, if they haven’t pursued confirming it. I’m not here to say whether AARO is credible or not, but be careful listening to any group speak on the subject and take everything with a grain of salt.

  • BenDoubleU@lemmy.radio
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    I wish he would make an official statement and not this: a post to his LinkedIn that he only shared with 1st connections.