cross-posted from: https://gehirneimer.de/m/privacy@lemmy.ml/t/57607
The French government is considering a law that would require web browsers – like Mozilla’s Firefox – to block websites chosen by the government.
What happened to telling governments to go fuck themselves? I remember when it was on the governments to police their citizens and if software violated their laws it was on the government to stop citizens accessing it. Why can they just not comply?
I mean obviously we can do both right? We can both fight stupid laws so they never get passed in the first place and then refuse to comply with them if they do.
so in the download section of firefox website, there will be notice: “not recommended for use in france”
problem solved 🤣
for-profit places will do that. i hardly expect mozilla to abandon the people of an entire country. though i’m sure they’ll make sure everyone knows what VPNs and Tor are if it comes to it.
i hardly expect mozilla to abandon the people of an entire country
that’s not what i meant. i meant that the notice will be only thing that happens to formally comply with the law and everyone will be able to download the firefox “on their own responsibility”
like when eu banned the classic lightbulbs, there was a discussion in my country because some idiots felt that “the dictatorship of eu is upon them again”
now these lightbulbs are being sold with the notice “for industrial use only, unsuitable for use in personal homes”. every normal person buys led-bulbs and few thousand idiots are happy thinking how they showed them! 😆
Actally about those lightbulbs they are used if you are a machienist because most led lights tends to flicker which could cause stroboscope effect on fast moving parts and sometimes could present effect that something looks like is moving slower or in different direction that is really moving which could be dangerous. But there are also special machienist led bulbs but are more expensive than normal led bulbs. I am not a profesional machienist so sorry if i didnt describe it correctly but my point is that leds (if are not designed for machienist) are not safe in that particular usecase
i am aware of that problem. but the point is that people abuse that fact to continue using it in their living room, where sensible thing would be to just switch to led
Yeah i agree those are stupid especially with todays electricity prices
In some places I think they’re sold as heaters now. I mean, traditional light bulbs are effective heaters so why not?
How else am I going to run my Easy-Bake Oven?!
Except thats not what mozilla is worried about at all. I suggest improving your reading skills. I’ve noticed they’re causing you issues.
i suggest you do, and when you are at the school, take a writing class while you are at it.
you didn’t really do good job explaining what you object to. what exactly is mozilla not worried about?
block websites in the browsers themselves.
Its in the first paragraph. So no, a warning wouldn’t suffice. Jfc. Read
And yes, I know it’s open source and someone can remove the block, but Mozilla and other companies can still be forced to put it there and leave it up to users to figure out. They probably can give vague instructions, but they probably have to avoid too much detail to stay out of legal trouble. What level of understanding do you have of the world outside your parents’ house?
block websites in the browsers themselves. Its in the first paragraph. So no, a warning wouldn’t suffice. Jfc. Read
so that’s… what they are not worried about? that is like whole purpose of the petition. for person sending other to reading class, you really have a problem with that. you don’t have to reply to that, welcome to my block list.
Oh my goodness. Blocking websites in a browser is a lot different than saying “not recommended”. I’m telling you what they are worried about versus your dumbass interpretation. Context clues may help you. I had already told you what they’re not worried about. I can only assume you’re not this dumb and see just trolling in bad faith now.
□ I’m okay with Mozilla handling my info as explained in this Privacy Notice.
the privacy notice doesn’t relate to the poll, is as fuzzy as it can be and doesn’t even come close to mentioning there is mandatory e-mail field (not talking about explaining how it is handled). i am afraid that checkbox is not going to be checked from me.
there is a section in the privacy policy explanations specifically dedicated to campaigns and petitions. i’m confused why it would need to mention any specifics like that they ask for an email address when their definition of personal information is defined as information they ask you for. it says they’ll only use it for things you give them permission to use it for. is the privacy policy great to read? no. is it a little confusing being broken up into parts to make it “easy” to read? a little bit. the point is, they’re not going to use the email address for anything else. and honestly, who doesn’t have email aliases if you’re protecting your email address so much that even Mozilla is a red flag? how did you even sign up for lemm.ee when it has almost regulations for your information (“we only share it with third parties that help us and that we like their privacy policy”)? Mozilla does the same.
where is the petition to bring weave back and remove pocket?
I agree about pocket, but… I thought Weave was just renamed/rebranded to Sync.
well weave was 1 effin thing you needed to install and can selfhost. 10 years later nobody hosts it self. because moz made it like shit. again. you’ll need a ton of installations for fxa and syncing and where to store bookmarks. just crap. the worst are the people at moz because their decisions render the word open and community a joke. remember the way they forced all plugin devs to follow their new implementation? well, that is exactly the behavior these moz morons complain about themselves when chrome adds drm or whatever shit alphabet comes up with.
Honestly I am mildly curious about this, but I am feeling a little too drunk and lazy at this point in my day to look it up and the linked article was not helpful. Can someone eli5 what has the French government so salty? Thanks in advance, -Cas
I posted baguette hate on this site
It’s about censorship and control of the internet. The French government is looking for another way to block things, beyond ISPs.
I forgot to say this at the time, but thanks for the response. You helped me to understand the issue.
Idk does France government knows that they can block addresses on ISP level but anyway, I’m not France government.
On ISP level? Only with DNS blocking. Which is pointless since you can simply change the DNS server to some non-ISP one. That’s probably why they want to force this stupidity onto browsers. Which is even more stupid and pointless.
If you are technical enough to change your DNS server, you are technical enough to circumvent that
ISP level blocking of traffic?
You can block IP addresses on ISP level.
We can argue about VPNs then, but that’s not how Internet should work, right?
Single IP can host multiple websites. You really want to block half the internet?
