edit: GUYS fuck stalin and fuck tankies, period. i understand that this community is more sensitive than most to pro-stalinist vibes, and i apologize for unintentionally twinging that nerve, but you need stop calling each other (and me) slurs

good heavens, happy new year, fuck incarceration and murder in all forms

(mods pls also do your job and help with the slurs thing)

edit2: big thank u 2 da mods for helping with the slurs thing u guys rock 😎 💕

    • spujb@lemmy.cafeOP
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      “any and all of my country’s actions are beyond criticism because at least we didnt kill them

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        6 months ago

        An important part of critical thinking is the ability to see flaws in comparisons and arguments even when they point towards conclusions you agree with. It’s telling that you interpreted their comment the way you did.

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          It’s telling, the way you’re talking about this. Unless OP is defending Stalin, something I’ve not seen evidence of. It’s pointing out how hypocritical most criticisms of Stalin are. The whole point of it, whether it’s 100% accurate. Is to bait hypocrites out into “but Stalin” bullshit. If their gulags are wrong. Maybe we should reevaluate our own similarly troubling practices.

          Don’t get me wrong, despite being libertarian Marxist. I’m wildly against Lenin, Stalin, Mao, hell Engles for that matter etc. But Americans general hypocrisy make our criticism pointless and largely mute. Making you and the other person ironically, the ones likely failing at critical thinking

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          my response was sarcasm and an intentional fallacy in the form of an appeal to incredulity for the sake of rhetoric ❤️

          if you think that counts as an interpretation thats on u bestie

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            my response was sarcasm and an intentional fallacy in the form of an appeal to incredulity for the sake of rhetoric

            My bullshit-english translator is a bit rusty, but all I’m getting out of this is “I intentionally wrote a wildly incorrect comment just for funsies” in which case fuck off

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    This has got to be one of the most stupid memes ever.

    The percentage of Soviet citizens that were put into prisons/gulag camps/colonies will have far exceeded the percentage of us citizens currently incarcerated in the usa, and in far more inhumane circumstances.

    Unless the op is trying to deflect from the problems of the USA penal system by drawing attention to a far worse system, I don’t get the point of this meme.

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      Why’s it at +157/-3 after 3hr:

      The US stat is so bad you easily believe it when attributed to stereotypical evil regime.

      Then you’re reminded that same evil thing is actually something the US is currently doing.

      I’m glad we don’t just kill everyone we arrest, I’m glad we’re not ruled by a dictator… still, I wish the average person viewing a meme weren’t able to easily believe something we do was actually done by someone we vaguely recall learning was the worst.

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    In US this is more a sign of lack of equality, economic comfort and equal social rights leading to criminal behaviour rather than just down right oppression as in say Turkey for instance.

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    You realise that 28 million people were held in gulags over the years? Have you calculated your numbers or did you just assume rates in America are higher than they were under Stalin?

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      I have a full instance block and it still isn’t enough. Every day more braindead tankie takes make it through the filter.

      “everything the USSR/CCP/DPRK did wrong is actually capitalist state intelligence propaganda” is so exhausting.

      “Capitalism is bad” apparently no longer includes state capitalism or the political capital exploitation of the vanguard class that preceeds it.