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  • If you are at the point where you are having to worry about government or corporate entities setting traps at the local library? You… kind of already lost.

    What about just a blackmailer assuming anyone booting an OS from a public computer has something to hide? And then they have write access and there’s no defense, and it doesn’t have to be everywhere because people seeking privacy this way will have to be picking new locations each time. An attack like that wouldn’t have to be targeted at a particular person.





  • Online debates about politics tend to be bad, but that’s mostly just because of people who are more interested in propagandizing than honestly hashing out ideas. If they aren’t doing that, and you aren’t doing that, it can be worthwhile. IMO the easiest way to tell the difference and know to stop replying is if you get a response that clearly was written after loosely skimming your comment, and using those few words as a jumping off point to launch into a mostly unrelated rant, rather than directly addressing your central point. Or, a common one with conservatives, an argument framed as unsolicited personal advice, that’s never going anywhere constructive.



  • Dunno, not sure there’s a way to conclusively pick an amount that’s “fair” since any metrics for that are arbitrary. Just going by productivity vs wages and the premise that what people were paid in 1979 was what they “should” be paid given that ratio, you could say 3x, but there’s a lot of assumptions there. To me the bigger story seems to be the ongoing trend of how capital keeps accumulating capital, and the share of the pie owned by regular people continues to decrease regardless of their contributions, and what that might mean for our future.









  • why are you judging peoples countries based on your view that governments shouldn’t force people to do things?

    Because that’s what this thread is for, sharing thoughts on compulsory voting.

    in fact you’re judging peoples’ lived experience and opinions based entirely on your own narrow views of government

    Rather I’m saying that just because people approve of something doesn’t mean it’s good. If you think governments forcing people to do things is something to be embraced in general, and your lived experience with it is positive, that’s your opinion, which is fine, but it doesn’t mean that opinion is right.

    yknow what else is good? taxes, fire services, disaster response, and dare i say - public healthcare and ambulances… all things im mandated to pay for along with everyone around me in case we ever need them

    Agreed, but I think you’re papering over some important nuance in the position I’m expressing here. I see this sort of compulsory taxation and what it buys as an example of something where the need outweighs the harm. It is ok because of how important these services are, and despite the lesser harm of making people slightly less free. If all taxes rather went to building golden statues of the president, they would be bad.

    My argument against compulsory voting is premised on the idea that reduced freedom is a harm, and must be justified by some good that sufficiently outweighs it. I haven’t made an argument supporting that premise, but I think it’s a sufficiently intuitive and popular sentiment that I shouldn’t have to. If you disagree with that premise, I think that just means we have very different values.




  • There are less coercive ways to remove barriers to voting. Some US states send everyone ballots in the mail and you have a long time to fill them out, which removes the need to go to a specific place on a specific day; all you have to do is fill it out and put it back in the mailbox. I think that kind of thing is a better option. There are situations where there are strong reasons civic participation has to be mandatory, like jury duty, but if the only real problem mandatory voting is meant to solve is life circumstances leading people to not bother voting, there are a lot of other plausibly effective steps that can be taken instead and it isn’t clearly necessary to do something that invasive.