The president often had a weak, raspy voice during his first debate against Trump, in what Democrats had hoped would be a turning point in the race.
The only realistic person who would replace Biden is Kamala Harris, and I don’t think people would vote for her.
She’s not Trump. People would vote for her.
This seems to be the only criteria anyone can evaluate. But if that’s the case, why bother removing Biden? Let the man drool his way into a second term. Its all the same, so long as he isn’t Trump.
I watched about 30 minutes, gotta say Trump was all over the map and not answering questions. Biden was raspy and stuttered, like he does , but he actually answered the questions. Trumps answer about what he would do about the fentanyl crisis was ‘I bought a dog’
When asked if he supports some restrictions on abortion, Biden said he “supports Roe v. Wade, which had three trimesters. The first time is between a woman and a doctor. Second time is between a doctor and an extreme situation. A third time is between the doctor, I mean, between the women and the state.”
He missed a slam dunk when he pivoted from abortion to immigration, there was no logical reason to do that. Let alone some of his other statements. We need an open convention, if Trump is as big of a threat to democracy as Dems (accurately) claim then it is far past time that they start acting like it.
He missed a slam dunk when he pivoted from abortion to immigration, there was no logical reason to do that.
The Republican strategy has been to focus on immigration as the root of all economic evil. And since Biden’s economic gains have been heavily overstated, he’s forced right back into the old “We have to force foreigners out in order to keep our wealth in” fascist politics.
We need an open convention
Idk who this “We” is supposed to be. Are you speaking as a well-positioned party superdelegate, member of the DNC leadership committee, or mega-donor? Or are you some internet armchair asshole watching this trainwreck from the nosebleed seats?
that was the worst fucking thing i’ve seen on tv in my life. holy shit that was depressing. yet it feels incredibly vindicating seeing every single media outlet openly say ‘that was a disaster, he should probably be out’. that was an absolute failure. rescheduling the debate would look better than that shit.
seeing every single media outlet openly say 'that was a disaster, he should probably be out.’
So it should be easy to source a couple of them saying that, right?
you’re quibbling about sources after that?
i mean ok:
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/biden-debate-performance-democrats-panic-rcna157279
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4745090-biden-debate-disaster-democrats-concerned/
The debate wasn’t that bad and none of those articles contained the quote you used.
I think you may have been watching the wrong debate
So, we’ve got an old, racist guy who lied through most of his statements and refused to possibly say that he would accept the results of the election vs an old guy with a history of a speech impediment that showed signs of his speech impediment and regularly pointed out the lies spouted off by his convicted felon opponent. Why are the media companies banking Trump again?
How come when they show old campaign videos of Biden where he’s plagiarizing others his so called stutter/speech impediment doesn’t seem to be there? And I thought the new excuse was that Biden had a cold anyway
…He was younger and the videos, being campaign videos, are edited to show him in the best possible light?
ETA: To be clear, I don’t think that he or anyone else too old to have to worry about the long-term consequences of their actions should be in office. But, he’s the only non-nazi choice available.
You’ve just been fooled by the MSM about the nazi garbage. Same with Joe being sharp as a razor. They just can’t hide it anymore
No. I didn’t tend to follow MSM. I think that’s it’s mostly that he snuggles up to dictators, says he wants to be a dictator, quotes Hitler, praises Hitler, and is supported by people waving about swastikas and spouting nazi slogans.
Yeah, you got it from the MSM. Otherwise, you’d have no reason to think that. I saw his speech that you speak of saying he wants to be a dictator, but you obviously didn’t
Noone who even “jokes” about wanting to be a dictator or president for life (like he said after meeting Xi Jinping) deserves to be anywhere near a seat of power. Any feedback on the rest? Like his habit of quoting Mein Kampf, praising Hitler, or how much people who identify as nazis love him? Don’t see any of that as the slightest bit problematic?
Joe’s got terrorist sympathizers that like him…does that make Joe a terrorist? And just because you don’t like Trumps jokes doesn’t make him a dictator either. He’s already been in office so we already know he’s not a nazi, dictator, etc.
Exactly. I guess we are learning that most of our fellow citizens have a hard time with nuance, and all they can do is shit their pants instead of toughen up.
Some people just aren’t living in denial
I find it ironic when the Left says “I don’t care if Biden is senile and incoherent, I’ll still vote for him!” no one cares… But, when the Right says “I don’t care that Trump is being charged with all these different things, I’ll still vote for him!” they’re idiots… funny how that works on Lemmy and Reddit…
Because one of these wants to destroy democracy and the right of many people to even exist.
But tell me again how the tangerine terror isn’t going to corrupt everything…
How did Trump destroy democracy when he was president? How horrible was your life? What freedoms did you lose when Trump was President? Again, scare tactics from the Left that we’ve been hearing for years now… I’m old enough to remember when they said the same shit about Bush Jr…
I don’t care if Biden is senile and incoherent,
There is not a big overlap between what skills a candidate needs and what skills a president needs. 99% of the job of president is to make decisions. That’s the job. Even if he lost his voice entirely and was in a wheel chair like FDR, he could still make excellent decisions. President Biden absolutely killed it for 2 hours at the state of the union speech. Nobody who was “senile” could have done that.
I’ll still vote for him!”
Have you not been paying attention to current events? The country is at a critical junction between democracy and neofascism. OF COURSE I’m going to vote for the continuation of democracy. Anybody who does not would be an idiot. I would vote for a literal corpse over Convicted Criminal and Sex Offender Treason Trump.
Neofascism an overrated word thrown around by the Left. That’s like me saying that the Democrats are going to turn our country into socialism, when we know that’s not true. We heard all these things before, how horrible the country would be if Trump got elected, the “end of democracy”…and yet, under Trump none of those things happened. Both sides use scare tactics, the Democrats are no better.
when we know that’s not true.
NO NO NO NO NO!!!
Dude both Democrats and Republicans still loyal to America are scared to death that Traitorapest Trump is going be the end of democracy.
WHY WOULD LYNNE CHENEY THROW HER CAREER AWAY IF SHE DIDN’T REALIZE TRUMP IS TRYING TO OVERTHROW DEMOCRACY??
WHY WOULD ADAM KINZINGER THROW HIS CAREER AWAY IF HE DIDN’T REALIZE TRUMP IS TRYING TO OVERTHROW DEMOCRACY??
Why did Trump’s Vice President, Sec of State, 2 Attorneys General, National Security Adviser – ALL REPUBLICANS – warn us that Trump is a threat to democracy.
Trump ordered an attack against America on Jan 6, 2001. The previous 2 months he spent every single day trying to figure out a way to overturn the election and disenfranchise millions of Americans. ONLY A POWER MAD NEOFASCIST WOULD DO THAT. There is overwhelming evidence that Trump knew he lost on election night and Steve Bannon admitted on audio tape before the election that Trump was going to lie “and say they stole it”.
Every time Loser Trump loses an election or a court case he slanders our country and attacks our core values of democracy and the rule of law.
He admitted he would be a dictator “on day one”.
He promised to abuse the justice system to go after political enemies.
He threatened to “pull the license” of news media that criticize him.
He tried to blackmail Ukraine to interfere in our elections.
He cooperated fully with Putin to interfere in our elections.
That’s like me saying that the Democrats are going to turn our country into socialism, when we know that’s not true.
Because there is no evidence for that whatsoever. With Treason Trump we have overwhelming evidence of his complete contempt for our longstanding core values of democracy and the rule of law.
Trump’s action’s between election day and Jan 6 ABSOLUTELY DISQUALIFY HIM from holding office. All Republicans who still support Treason Trump ARE SUPPORTING THE END OF DEMOCRACY.
TRUMP KNOWS THAT IF DOESN’T OVERTHROW DEMOCRACY THEN HE IS GOING TO PRISON.
Doesn’t Biden have a cold?
Immune systems of 80 year old men are notoriously not great.
