Someone correct me if I’m wrong here, but anyone feel like Apple is slowly having an…over-engineering problem?
The Apple Vision Pro, this… the new iPad Pros with FUCKING M4 CHIPS THAT ARE RUNNING IPADOS (???)
Like what is happening in their product development department lately?
“If you can’t reinvent the wheel, then just make the wheel more expensive.” -Tim Apple, probably
I appreciate his proper name being used 🤗
I just saw that clip a week or two ago and I’m still laughing at it every time I see an apple product
Listen, I can’t lie…my iPhone X is the best phone I’ve owned. Bought in 2017 and still going strong with promised support until 2026/27. I still have fond memories of “paying” my parents back for it (I was child labour 😀)
I bought a 14 pro and gave my nephew my X. Besides the island and the camera quality they are largely indistinguishable for almost all of my use-cases. And they are almost 5 years apart.
Huh? I was pretty sure it’d fall out of OS support this year. And without security patches, shudder
It still gets security updates, just not iOS17 support. My mum is on the 6s with iOS 15 and that still gets security updates. It’s my secondary phone, and in it’s lifetime l’ve had a two Pixels and a Samsung that I had to return for build faults (Pixel) or they stopped doing software updates/security updates.
There are many faults for Apple, but their iOS support can’t compare to any first party Android. iPhone owners don’t NEED to upgrade every two/three years, they do it because they’re dumbasses.
Thanks for the info. Yeah, that support is even better than I’d thought, and it was already top-tier
Or they have a ton of M4 sized wheels and it’s easier just to use the same wheel for everything
They need to take their talent and apply it to stuff that could actually use it, rather than rehashing stuff that is already good. An Apple clothes dryer that actually can sense dry clothes and doesn’t break easily. An apple garage door that doesn’t suck. An Apple Ebike that lasts ages and is repairable (and gets people out of their cars).
I think an Apple bidet could be neat. A toaster, too.
Did you just put “repairable” and “Apple” in the same sentence?
… I don’t know if I trust Siri to wash my asshole tbh
Something tells me you wouldn’t like the coming AssID feature either.
The bidet is under development. It is going to have cameras to confirm cleanliness using ai.
That would probably disrupt the brand too much.
An Apple bidet which adds a colonic health section to your Health app
I bought a fancy shmancy toaster and it sucks, matches my mixer but ruins my sammiches.
Yeah, it feels like no matter how much I spend on stuff like toasters, air fryers, or blenders, they just aren’t built like they were a couple of decades ago. It’s a drag to go through appliances that shouldn’t be disposable. Even high-end vaccums don’t last as long as they should, and when they do need parts, they are difficult to repair. Miele even got bought out, iirc.
Will the camera look inside of your ear?
iWax
iWax on … iWax off
Yes and tell you your IQ, and notify your doctor that you don’t wash in there.
Its gonna look out at the world so you can ask it questions and it can tell you about what youre looking at
First there were glassholes. Now we’ll have earworms?
You mean butt plugs with cameras pointing onwards into it?
I would buy that
Let me guess. Add infrared cameras onto the Airpods, costing them very little extra, and using it as justification for an £80 price rise.
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Not saying otherwise. I’m saying IR cameras are probably an excuse to bump up the price.
I think it’s more so a selling point to get you to buy into the Apple sphere. It would work with other Apple gear, so you just have to buy that other stuff
bringing “in-air” gestures to airpods
I can’t wait for stories of people brushing their hair away and the earbuds take that as a sign to raise the volume too high or something equally dumb to happen because they won’t be able to differentiate between a normal gesture meant for it and something not meant for it.
Gesture controls are cool, but what happens if they are too sensitive to movement or think gesture xyz is the same as gesture zyx?
Exactly… I have regular buds for running and I hate them because they inevitably shift around a bit and , when I try to get them back in place, they start misinterpreting my touch with whatever touch command they were preprogrammed
These ideas sound nice in the brainstorming room but, in my experience, have rarely panned out in practice
These already have IR sensors for gesture detection
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/hy-concealed-smart-earbuds#/
Using cameras instead of simpler IR sensors are going to hurt battery life
I think the problem would be there aren’t sensitive enough and you have people walking around talking to themselves and waving their hands all around in frustration
If someone is wearing them you will never be truly certain if a bee is flying around them or not.
Cost as much as an iPhone
They haven’t even thought of adding fans for the hot days. Is anyone even thinking of users at Apple?
And this is why the Humane Pin was always a dumb idea. Apple, Google, Samsung, etc just needed to license some LL and diffusion models, then slap camera on all the headphones they make. Boom - instant humane like experience that’s faster, lighter, better looking, has better battery, etc etc.
No futuristic projector UI, but that thing was pretty busted anyway.
The big problem with the humane pin was that it was trying to do processing on the teeny tiny device and that used all it’s battery up in 15 mins generated 300 MW of heat.
Why not just use the phone in your pocket that’s actually designed for this kind of data processing?
That’s a lotta heat
As I recall, the original goal was to build a product that allowed you to leave the phone behind so you could be more present in the world.
Problem is, processing and battery power clearly isn’t there yet, and it would require a separate sim for that.
A product that leveraged the phone would’ve been a better V1. It’s kind of the obvious conclusion everyone comes to when they play with this thing in the wild.
This is the most tech bro thing ever.
“Lets innovate ourselves out of a problem that innovation created”
Imagine trying to invent a new class tech instead of just putting your phone down.
I fundamentally take issue with the idea that I need to be saved from my phone.
The primary reasons I use my phone are for communication and taking pictures. Well it was terrible at both of those things.
Just to improve the spy ecosystem. Thanks
100% says it’s for gesture tracking and fully local
The source code is closed so you cannot check Apple allegations only trust them and I don’t trust a company who puts a advertising ID on its phones
Do you trust Google? They do a LOT more than add a highly anonymous advertising ID you can reset at at will.
Marketing departments around the world collectively shat their pants when Apple did that change, it made tons of user tracking instantly completely useless.
Yeah well, they wouldn’t buy earphones with fucking cameras on them from Google either, now would they?
Only because everyone’s on edge, give it a few years and they’ll need “anonymised” data collection to “help improve their service”
Only because everyone’s on edge,
Wrong, everyone’s on chrome
I’ll see myself out, no need to shoot
Edge is what you use to download a browser.
Have they done it with FaceID yet?
It can detect accurate facial expressions, it’d be advertising gold to see what faces people pull when watching ads, even see if they’re looking at the phone
I suppose they really wanna use all that R&D that they did on gesture tracking with the vision somewhere.
Yep, imagine skipping tracks with a specific gesture instead on fondling the white nub poking out of your ear
Let’s take low power a tech gadget that gets good battery life and make it no longer have good battery life. What a great idea.
I doubt it’s for their fun headset since they’ve already abandoned it. I’m sure it’s going to be taking data for mapping or some other dumb bullshit with AI to describe what’s around you because you can’t fucking use your eyes.
Apple is so bad now. Ugh.
Abandoned it? What?
They’re just stopping development of the Pro to focus on the cheaper model so not necessarily abandoned
Remove the unnecessary outwardly facing “eyeball screens”. There, cheaper.
I was trying to call out that dude as an idiot without getting flamed for it. Seems like they’re doing a great job of flaming themselves though. I knew it wasn’t abandoned.
This doesn’t say that the Vision Pro is abandoned at all.
In fact, it implies the opposite. They have paused development of a Vision Pro 2 and are instead accelerating development of their planned lower-cost headset.
Seems to me that they will be having the Vision Pro (1st gen) as their supported flagship for longer than expected.
the tech giant has suspended work on the next Vision Pro and is looking for ways to cut costs for a cheaper model that could ship by the end of next year
It absolutely does not. Which non-shitty version of their currently absolutely shitty headset did you think was going to be the magic one that actually works the way describe and advertise? Lolol
Why do you think the headset doesn’t work as described or advertised?
Its price is the main complaint I’ve seen.
If you haven’t read or looked into this, it feels almost wrong to just boil it down for you.
Watch one of their stupid commercials about it, then see if it works at all the way they delict it working. It does not. All it is now is a wearable monitor for desktop viewing. Things it does not do while clearly depicted as such:
- gaming
- multimedia presentations
- stream to other headsets
- have ANY sharable user positioning data (local or GPS)
- collaboration with other headset owners
- wireless anything (it’s got a heavy ass battery pack)
- literally has NONE of the apps that it had depicted it had in some presentations at initial dev announcement (Netflix, YouTube…etc), though they are usable in browser
Anyway, you get the idea. There’s more, but why bother.
I like shitting on Apple as much as the next guy but the Vision Pro is an impressive piece of gear from an engineering perspective. Unfortunately, much like pretty much all VR headsets before it, it is suffering from a lack of an ecosystem.
All Apple changed is to pivot away from a focus on bleeding edge high end hardware in this new segment and instead grow a userbase by means of a cheaper base product (likely missing one or two bells and whistles). Developers don’t like to produce apps for platforms nobody will use, even if they get thrown some money to do so, because it is a poor long term investment. So Apple’s best shot at this is to get Vision devices onto as many heads as possible.
You can play steam games on the Vision Pro via a PC.
It absolutely does. I’m not sure why you’re trying to spread misinformation, but Apple clearly hasn’t dropped VR or the Vision Pro, and your own source proves it.
I never said that. WTF are you talking about?
Yes you did. If you can’t remember your own words, you can literally just scroll up.
I doubt it’s for their fun headset since they’ve already abandoned it.
Ear pics now easier than ever
This is the best summary I could come up with:
The $3 trillion company intends to mass-produce revamped earbuds with built-in infrared cameras by 2026, according to a new report from analyst and longtime Apple insider Ming-Chi Kuo.
The cameras could help Apple shore up its current and future augmented-reality headsets with enhanced spatial audio features, the analyst wrote.
Citing a supply-chain survey, Kuo indicated that pairing these enhanced buds with Vision Pro goggles could make Apple’s spatial-computing experience more lifelike.
For folks not interested in dropping thousands on an Apple headset, the IR cameras could offer other perks, including bringing “in-air” gestures to AirPods, per Kuo.
The analyst’s report follows an earlier story from Bloomberg’s Mark Gurman, which noted that Apple was looking into the idea of camera-powered AirPods.
After turning its minimalistic white buds into status symbol in the iPod era, Apple has gradually made them smarter over the years, adding features such as wireless connectivity, noise cancellation, head tracking, touch controls and voice commands.
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How about just better sound instead? You know, what headphones are actually for.
Airpods are more about convenience than sound quality. Not sure how cameras factor in there though.
The worst part is that these could be the only option. Since airpods are designed to go bad after a few years Apple will interpret all of the replacements as “very successful sales”
