IMHO foolish to focus on the most vulnerable rather than how most people are vulnerable in some way or another and putting foremost in policy messaging changes that would help large numbers of people.
I sympathize with the plight of trans folks and other smaller disadvantaged minority groups but half of Americans are barely making ends meet, and America is falling further behind in manufacturing, infrastructure and technology/research, all while bathroom bills and grooming narratives are decade+ old very effective wedge issues.
Help the most vulnerable certainly but put front and foremost how the vast majority would be helped if you want to motivate voters and win converts.
A rising tide lifts all boats.
Weirdly enough, it was Adam Smith, the first proto-capitalist, that came up with that idea.
He clearly hadn’t foreseen the possibility of monopolies and abusive trade practices.
That’s what I’m saying, that’s a winning message, rather than focusing on hauling ashore the few boats deemed most deserving by whatever metric and implying the others are less important and can wait.
Conservatives:
(But not if it makes me feel like I’m losing anything, or if I have to pay any taxes for it)
Seriously.
Biden needs to step aside ASAP so that we can get a candidate with a better than 50/50 chance at beating trump.
trump is too dangerous to risk it, voters and the party both need to do everything possible to stop him.
For the party, that means not running Biden
Unfortunately current polling hasn’t shown someone like that yet. Harris would probably be first up but it’s not an advantage starting again this late unfortunately.
Unfortunately current polling
Can you like a source who’s method isn’t quick and dirty polls by a company who makes whatever polls there donors want and whose founder didn’t get arrested last election for using his companies polls to try and influence election results so their literal bets on elections would pay off?
Bonus points if the founder also didn’t solicite their employees to enter an illegal straw donor scheme.
Hint:
Not from this absolute shit show
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_for_Progress
Quick edit:
The poll your likely referencing compared pro-Israel moderates to Biden.
All it shows is the people dont just not want Biden, they don’t want Biden because of his policy stances and they don’t want someone else with the same conservative policy
So who’s your candidate, and how would they win enough votes from a major party in which 50+% of people are (unfortunately, but accurately) moderates?
in which 50% of people are (unfortunately, but accurately) moderates?
Do you think it’s easier to convince 50% of Dems to vote for more than they want, or for less than they want?
And that’s not even getting into how even Republicans agree with progressive policy.
The policy is popular. But with moderate Dems, republicans, and pretty much all of mainstream media fearmingering about progress, people won’t label themselves progressive even though they agree with the platform.
So who’s your candidate
I hate how people phrase that like anyone saying Biden is a stupid risk, are just saying that because they have a favorite candidate…
Anyone that’s not pro-genocide, is pro-worker, and not trump would have a walkin victory.
You asked for one specific person, so AOC has the best chance to stop trump in my opinion.
She’s young, charismatic, a great public speaker, and can flip red states like Obama in 08 due to those traits.
You are in a tiny tiny echo chamber if you think she’s got a chance. This election will come down to firmly purple swing states, and literally not a single one would swing blue for such a divisive candidate. (Not even saying she’s divisive for good reason, just that she objectively is when you look at public sentiment).
Biden is so unfortunately the best chance to avoid Trump, and he’s not even a great chance.
Ever heard of Project 2025?
It calls for barring transgender people from the military and to stop what it considers the “toxic normalization of transgenderism” across the government and American society. It seeks to abolish the president’s Gender Policy Council, “which it views as promoting abortion and the ‘new woke gender ideology,’”
its already happening my dude.
child labour is already legalized in many states queer rights are slowly being eroded away already.
Yeah, and this is all because of republican footholds in those states and the supreme court. If that happened during a democrat presidency, then what do you think would happen with a republican presidency?
blah blah. its funny how democrats can never accomplish anything good, just bad shit blamed on republicans, but when its republicans on power nothing can ever stop them from fucking everything up.
almost like the system itself is broken and electing a geriatric fascist is gonna fix nothing beyond the egos of people bothered by the other more crass fascist.
nothing but a good cop bad cop routine when in reality all cops are bastards.
…my guy, Trump wants me fired from my job and then summarily shot. Vote for the guy that doesn’t want that if you care, please.
i went through similar here and it was the “progressive” one who made it happen. capital will have their way regardless.
Are we seriously using this as a wedge between one candidate or the other? I’d love to have full trans rights here like any other reasonable country but if the alternative is authoritarianism 2016 but with an actual plan this time then I’m not going to complain if I don’t get everything I want.
not a wedge. no wedge to be had if the current administration is already undermining it.
Okay, so you’re part of the all or nothing crowd. I’m glad the worst election year is being deluded by people that see things as only black or white. That is, if you’re not a troll. Either way, you’re doing Russia’s job for them and splintering the left further.
and you are part of the nothing or nothing crowd.
i live somewhere with free healthcare and i cant believe anything less than that is acceptable and normalized to you, let alone the cruel system you have rn. but please tell me how cruelty and genocide is worth defending so hard.
I think they’re vastly less than perfect and I don’t want any of this for Americans but I want outright fascism less.
if the line isnt drawn somewhere things will only get worse
If you do this, you wont vote, you will shoot politicians
This will also work for conservatives, though. They will imsist that the most vulnerable people are unborn children, therefore they should vote anti-abortion
Will = have been for decades and will continue to do so. Up next is contraception because they will act like unfertilized eggs are children next.
Democrats need to pull Biden and give us a candidate worth voting for.
Biden is not a suitable candidate. There is still plenty of time to get someone new.
The most vulnerable would probably be some kid in Gaza without access to clean water.
But I haven’t met them.
Can I vote for them and, if so, who do I choose?
Given the available choices, and acknowledging the realities of game theory, the choice seems pretty obvious.
Your writing style and intelligence remind me of someone I used to know…
who I fell in love with. He was very verbally intelligent and had brown eyes. I still fantasize about fleeing nuclear war and accidentally bumping into him in another country in which he has fewer romantic options due to many people affected by the war. It’s sort of a warped fantasy on many levels.
I’m nearly certain you aren’t him because of the motorcycle post. And you use Firefox and he used Macs. He probably uses Safari or whatever stupid closed-source browser comes with those systems. I never understood Macs. I should have just bought one and pretended to like it, but I doubt it would have reeled him in. I was naive back when I met him and a Windows user, so also incredibly stupid. Even if I had used Linux back when I met him, or morally caved and pretended to like Macs, he probably still wouldn’t have found me to be an appealing option, hence the fantasy of nuclear war and encountering him in a limited options situation. “I am so sad there are so few survivors from this terrible war,” I would lie, feigning dismay. (It’s a really fucked up fantasy.) You have a similar linguistic style as he did.
In any case, your logic is sort of flawed because under a game theory perspective, my vote will not matter. I am not in a swing state. Game theory looks at things from a hyper-logical decision-tree and probabalistic perspective, and no matter what I do in this situation the outcome is the same. What you wrote sounded clever, but is technically wrong.
If you mean Biden is the least cruel choice, I don’t know if you are right. Trump went to Wharton and likes tall buildings and avoiding large unneeded costs. (I’m bracing myself to be inundated with down-votes.) Trump does not show a lot of empathy to minorities, but he’s cheap. I could see him using diplomacy to end things more quickly than Biden through fake flattery, and even if there was a Potemkin village aspect to his negotiation that was ethically one-dimensional, results are results. At the same time, I don’t think Trump has any pesky mirror neurons to affect how he feels regarding suffering and death, so any success would be secondary to his self-absorption, which could still be effecacious.
But I also believe Trump is in the pocket of Putin, which could make nuclear war less likely, although he would cede to every Putin demand. This of course would wreck my fantasy of having to flee nuclear war and bumping into the brown eyed guy I’m in love with in a strange country… For various extremely convoluted reasons, randomly calling him or emailing him may not be effective. Basically many romantic rivals would have to no longer exist as a result of some apocalyptic hellscape for me to have a chance. What would be dystopia to some would be my only chance… at victory.
Ultimately I could never vote for Trump because of how he treats people. I don’t want to normalize trash culture, even rich white trash culture. I just don’t know if I would vote for Biden as a symbolic gesture. He’s great to trans people but his presidency is part of incredible cruelty and I am not sure I want to add my meaningless rubber stamp to what is going on, as though kindness to LGBT people offers some sort of political absolution for complex and unseen atrocities. I adhere to the political system as it exists with its corruption out of fear, not loyalty, and voting at all seems to be supporting something corrupt and rotten. I believe in democracy, but I can’t change the mind of everyone. In a different world in which I had ended up less lonely, I could have had the strength to change minds with words, but as it stands any voting just seems like complicity.
