• commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    4 months ago

    we are so far removed from any actual argument that my characterization can’t be considered a strawman so much as “The way most people are able to interact online”.

    but i’m happy to state this formally enough that i’d pass a student in my logic class:

    the claim is that abstaining from factory farmed meat has a benefit for the environment. the supposed mechanism is that by refusing to buy a product, the producers will prorduce less, and therefore have lower emissions.we have evidence people abstain. we have evidence that the production increases. there is no evidence that abstaining from buying meat has ever reduced emissions.

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      4 months ago

      With you helping, x is increasing by 101 every day, without you, it is increasing by 100. This is the crux of what you are misunderstanding. The difference you make does not pull it from the negative to the positive.

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          4 months ago

          It still isn’t quite clicking for you. An individual person starting or stopping to give money to an entire industry does not change the industry from being profitable or not. I never said it did. It is you who has consistently claimed that it should, despite a lack of evidence. It is a very solipsistic view to think that one person’s purchases change an entire industry from being profitable or not. I don’t really know how to get you to internalize the logic behind this, you really just need to try hard to work it out for yourself if this is really the point that you are struggling with.

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            4 months ago

            It is a very solipsistic view to think that one person’s purchases change an entire industry from being profitable or not.

            do you know how i know that you don’t know what solipsism is?

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              4 months ago

              You were repeatedly wrongly making the claim that an individual’s decision to quit giving money to the factory farming industry should be what changes them from profitable to not. It does seem like you have realized the absurdity of this and are now backing off, but this doesn’t change your prior claims. It is nice to see you changing your mind about this.

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                4 months ago

                You were repeatedly wrongly making the claim that an individual’s decision to quit giving money to the factory farming industry should be what changes them from profitable to not. I

                i never said that.

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            4 months ago

            An individual person starting or stopping to give money to an entire industry does not change the industry from being profitable or not.

            talk about a straw man.

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                  4 months ago

                  It is very understandable why you would now try to back down off of your claim that a single person should be able to change an entire industry from being profitable or not. It is fine to admit you were wrong though, it does you no favors to try to act like that was never your stance. The comments are all still there.