• bufalo1973@lemmy.ml
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    • I have a product that I want to sell.
    • You don’t like that product.
    • I’m at risk of being broke because I don’t sell anything.
    • It’s YOUR FAULT because you don’t buy what I sell.

    I think that’s not the way it works.

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      Why don’t you share the way you do think it works?

      Unless you don’t know anymore of “how it should work” than the people running the show, despite your wish to appear as you do.

      It’s cute 😺

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      The funny thing is that I remember this being said about every candidate since Bill Clinton. Dont worry everything is going to be alright.

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          I agree things are crumbling, but Trump is a symptom not the cause. Trump is not going to be the end of things, he is just a dude that likes to talk about himself and be important.

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            I would broadly agree with that, except for the documented attempts to subvert the election. I think that ones pretty uniquely bad

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              I guess it depends on what subvert the election means. From all that I have known and heard it seems to be the same legal things that all the candidates usually do. And then when I say this someone links some partisan article about how it was worse than when Deathstar destroys Alderan.

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    The current political crisis is a competition of ideas. Specifically who can spread their ideas the farthest and the fastest. Neo-liberalism is entrenched in our society and because of that fascism is on the rise. People reflexively reject socialism without understanding that the ideas work and would improve our lives.

    We need to vote for Biden in 2024, because he is going to be the Democratic nominee. But defeating Trump will not be the end of this problem. Unless we successfully perform a political revolution we are going to be in this same situation with the threat of a fascist take-over every presidential election.

    We need wealth redistribution and also systemic change to our political and economic institutions. To do that we do need high voter turnout. We need people to vote for socialists and progressives in 2026 and 2028. To get those votes we need to change minds.

    I personally appreciate the sentiment of this meme, because we need to be encouraging voter turnout. But the fascist movement will only grow the longer we stick with neo-liberalism. The more wealth inequality grows the more people who will be susceptible to fascist ideas.

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          you are ignoring the gaping contradiction in your argument. it isnt necessary to catch the subtle nuances of an argument that follow from a flawed premise. dont tell me “we gotta vote even harder” doesnt follow from anything said before, i will agree.

          “we need to encourage fascism with neoliberalism just a liiiitle while longer, then we totally got this bro” yeah youre right im missing it

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              hey in 2026 and 2028, feel free to vote for whoever you want! but this time, it’s too important to give up your vote for the neoliberal enabling fascism, you might get the fascist in office if you do that.

              hey in 2022 and 2024, feel free to vote for whoever you want! but this time it’s too important…

              hey in 2018 and 2020, feel free to vote for whoever you want! but this time…

              ad nauseum

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                Sure, sure comrade I get it. Say - remind me who the progressive was in 2018, 2020? What laws did they pass?

                None? Really. Hm. What about 2016? None again eh. So - what, they’re not very good? Utterly unelectable? Maybe they don’t have corporate money so we just don’t know about them? Ohhhh right - the whole thing is a dark lizard cabal and to get in you have to murder a child and eat them on pizza or something right?

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                  Bernie Fucking Sanders in 2020, and in my state at least, in 2018 it was Beto O’Rourke. Bernie was not unelectable but was cheated by the Democratic neoliberal establishment despite a comfortable majority of voter support, as you will recall. Beto was a victim of a concerted misinformation propaganda campaign by his competitor, and an incompetent pr campaign by his own staff.

                  How are you gonna tell everyone "Yes, I know the neoliberals keep encouraging fascism, but if you just vote for them, fucking again, then next time, for realzies we can get the person who we actually want, is willing and able to fix things. address this contradiction, please.

                  I note how you threw in corporate money right next to conspiracy views as if to equivalate the two. Also, as it turns out, there really was dark pedophile cabal, so.

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      Don’t let the bullshit percentages distract you from the fact that in 1998, the Undertaker threw Mankind off Hell In A Cell, and plummeted 16 ft through an announcer’s table. Vote. 🗳️