MADRID, Sept 24 (Reuters) - Tens of thousands of Spaniards protested in Madrid on Sunday against possible plans by acting Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez to grant an amnesty to Catalan separatists to keep himself in office after an election he failed to win.

  • Madison_rogue@kbin.socialOP
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    1 year ago

    You people cheering on the separatists are also big fans of Brexit right?

    No, however I am a fan of self-determination, akin to Scotland’s reaction to Brexit and the possibility of them splitting with the UK so they could reenter the EU. And with the UK exiting the EU it was a close enough vote to split the country. Catalonia voted over 90% to leave…regardless of the referendum’s potential legality.

    Whatever Sanchez is doing to try to court the Catalonain leaders in exile is vile, and shouldn’t deter the will of Spaniards to choose their leadership, however governments outside winnter-take-all elections we have in the U.S. require political coalitions. Hopefully your politicians from different parties and interests can agree upon that and rightfully oust Sanchez.

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      You clearly have no clue what you’re talking about. These protests are about people being angry that Sanchez might offer amnesty to those catalunyans who broke the law by having an illegal rather than legal referendum.

      Most people didn’t support the referendum, it had already been ruled illegal, and only those that were separatist voted.

      Again, you do not understand how a multi party parliament works. Sanchez didn’t really lose the election. The left wing parties got as many seats as the right wing parties with the junts sitting in the middle as mild king makers (they cannot help the right, they can only cause another election in which they will likely get wiped out).

      And again, if Sanchez and the PSOE do not form a government but the PP and Vox do, then Spain will be ruled by an authoritarian ultra right nationalist party that has stated they intend on putting more national police and Guardia civil in Catalunya to prevent even protests.

      Yet somehow, in all your political wisdom, are angry that Sanchez might give assistance to the people in trouble for having the referendum and thus he should be ousted so that the fascists can come in to power?

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      If you want to see a real percentage of the people want to leave check the votes, not a referendum that was only favoured by one part, thats why it was 90%.

      Last elections and past elections was below 50% if I remember correctly, with PSOE and PSC (catalan socialists from PSOE).

      Sanchez is as vile as you would like, but actually now is in negotiations to stop prosecution and do an amnesty, I think you haven’t followed news since 2017.

      And honesty, indepence within modern democracy is complicated because the country belong to everyone and no one, is public. You cannot take your part of the state (Elon Musk style…) and expect other people being ok with it so easily.

      And sorry, they are not opressed in colonial manner, they have representation, language, culture respected by the constitution as laws above all, and the same rights as all citizens in Spain.