Israel’s Knesset passed a resolution rejecting the establishment of a Palestinian state on Thursday.

The bill, co-sponsored by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s coalition along with right-wing parties in the opposition, was passed by an overwhelming majority of 68 votes, with only nine MKs voting against it.

Benny Gantz, seen by many leaders in the West as a more moderate figure than Netanyahu, voted in favour of the bill, along with his party.

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    In fact, by recognizing Luhansk and Donetsk as independent countries, they were explicitly saying that Luhansk and Donetsk were not part of Russia.

    They passed actual law saying otherwise almost two years ago. You are just making this up.

    It’s not the same situation as Taiwan or Palestine, where China and Israel respectively claim that those territories are theirs and include them on official maps.

    What, because there’s some of Ukraine left afterwards on the condition that it only does what Russia wants it to do?

    The initial claim was that it was a land grab, which it absolutely is.

    “Territory X belongs to country Y” can depend on who you ask, but “Country Y claims territory X” is a simple fact that is either true or not.

    It’s only a simple fact if you look at maps and literally nothing else. A vassal state is not really independent, is it?

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        Not only is this article 2 years old, it predates the entire invasion. You cannot possibly think this fact matters in the slightest right now, in the context that Russia parked their army in that territory and said “lol this is actually our land now.”

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          Not only is this article 2 years old, it predates the entire invasion.

          Yes, that’s what I said.

          I said:

          That’s why, before invading, they formally recognized the independence of Donetsk and Luhansk from Ukraine.

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            Again, the crux of your arguement is “Russia is not claiming Ukraine” and your support for this is actions taken in the past that are no longer relevant as they have been superseded by more recent activity.

            You are basically arguing that Germany promised not to invade anyone else if they just got the Sudetenland while being fully aware that the rest of WWII happened. It doesn’t matter in the slightest that Russia totally said they love independent areas when again, their army is parked there and they passed a more recent law saying that territory is theirs. This is just bad faith arguing on behalf of an actor who very much does whatever benefits them at that exact second.

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              Look, you’ve accused me of lying, you’ve misrepresented what I say, you stubbornly refuse to understand what I’m saying, and you don’t seem to have any understand of the situation you’re passionately arguing about.

              I’m just gonna block you.

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                Just gonna block everyone that disagrees with you?

                🤡

                Go ahead and do me next so you can go back to spouting nonsense with no pushback

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                I’m not the same person who started this and didn’t say the earlier stuff you’re upset about but go off king.

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        What I’m saying you’re making up is the intention behind the recognition, not the fact that Russia recognised the breakaway regions. We have seen Russia’s actions since the recognitions: invasion and annexation. You don’t annex places that you legitimately respect the independence of. That’s a blatant contradiction.