A Republican state senator has called for “civil war” if Donald Trump loses the presidential election in November.

George Lang, an Ohio politician, made the comment as he introduced JD Vance at his first solo campaign event since becoming Trump’s running mate.

After taking to the stage fist-raised and shouting Trump’s post-shooting battle cry “Fight! Fight!”, Mr Lang warned of an existential threat facing Americans. He declared in front of a large, heated crowd in Ohio: “We are in the fight for the soul of our nation… for our kids, for our grandkids, it is a fight we can never imagine.

“I believe wholeheartedly, Donald Trump and Butler County’s JD Vance are the last chance to save our country. Politically, I’m afraid if we lose this one, it’s going to take a civil war to save the country.”

Video of the speech

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    Honestly, at this point I’m getting tired of them saying it all the time.

    Do it.

    It would not go the way they think it would go, and the confederate/nazi/MAGA party would be swiftly defeated within days/hours. They do not have the support they think they have, most Americans don’t let politics run their lives and Fox poison their brains and a civil war would actually wake those Americans up to the seriousness of what’s going on right now.

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    Kyle Gass makes an edgy joke and he gets canceled. This fucker calls for literal civil war and it’s considered business as usual. Got it.

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      But Kyle Gass is much more influential, he decides policies and laws and swore an oath to serve the people while George Lang is just a musician.

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    If we have another civil war, we can learn from our biggest mistake too.

    Finish Reconstruction.

    We can accept their secession, conquer them, and then keep them as territories. During that time, we can enact policy that helps all Americans. Restore fairness standards in news reporting, wipe out the KKK, pass a voter’s bill of rights, tax churches equally, replace FPTP with IRV, and abolish the electoral college.

    If we don’t address the brainwashing, it’ll happen a third time too. They can have a little bit of authoritarianism if they want it so much.

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      If we have another civil war, we can learn from our biggest mistake too.

      Finish Reconstruction.

      Obligatory - FUCK ANDREW JOHNSON.

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      Problem this time is, it isn’t quite as clear cut geographically. Even in red states like Georgia, you have MILLIONS of Democrats.

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    This war again? You’d think they’d learned their lesson, but they keep burning the books that could teach them.

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    If we lose this election we will need to have a civil war to save the country? So what he’s saying, in essence, is that if Trump can’t get enough support to win an election, his supporters should overthrow the government. Am I understanding that correctly?

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    They invoke “civil war” phrase every time they feel threatened, and then wonder why their candidate faced an assassination. Who do they think is the dumbass here? Their voters? Or the opposition?

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      But the US didn’t have tanks and planes back then. Surely our muskets will be even more effective against those.

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        The US would win without ever firing a single shot. Cut off electricity, the countless food products we import, imported fuel, cheap products from China, USPS/FedEx/Amazon Prime/etc, and so on. A week of eating gruel in the dark and they’ll be begging to rejoin the US.

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    Bullfuckingshit. I said it when Trump was shot at, and I’ll keep saying it: only ONE party has been ramping up the rhetoric for violence, and it sure as fuck isn’t coming from Democrats. These morons obviously don’t care if they get shot at again, because it’s not in their minds that they are causing the problem.

    This is their M.O. though:

    1. Identify a target to rant about
    2. Call for violence
    3. Say you’re TOTALLY FUCKING SERIOUS THIS TIME
    4. Apologize and act like that’s enough, knowing what you said will stick with the crowd, but the Democrats aren’t going to call bullshit.

    Here’s a thought: Biden uses his last 6 months of King Powers granted by the SC to put everyone of these fuckers in jail by Executive Order on sedition and treason charges, backing it up by making it an “Official Act” since Trump was shot at, and these assholes are trying to get more people shot at. That’ll shut them the fuck up.

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      Call your Senators and Representatives and give them an earful about this. If they shrug you off or they are on the side of those calling for civil war, then let other gov’t officials know.

      We collectively need to stop allowing these shit lords from getting away with putting the idea of war against each other into the minds of those that otherwise know it’s wrong but just follow groupthink

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      I was saying that after Jan 6.

      Historically speaking, not purging your opposition after an attempted coup or change of power is one of the dumbest decisions you can make, second only to putting/leaving the opposition in positions of power and also making them your successor.

      In American history, we saw it with Lincoln, resulting in his assassination and the end of reconstruction, and less dramatically, we saw it when Obama (and more recently Biden) left like half of Bush’s appointees in power, who immediately use their power to sabotage the administration.

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      I see people constantly saying that democracy will end, there wont be elections again, they will do all kinds of evil things, etc. How is that not ramping up rhetoric for violence?

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        Trump has specifically said these things. The Project 2025 psychos have said these things. Those are threats. Therefore, that is a threat to democracy, and democracy ending. So again, it’s only coming from one side, the MAGA clowns.

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          So how then how does your team claiming democracy will end if they win not ramp up rhetoric for violence?

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              If Trump is orange Hitler then it would be good stop him by any means necessary. If your claim is “If Trump takes power that will end democracy” how is that not rhetoric for violence?

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                Because the Democrats aren’t out there saying “HEY, WE NEED A FUCKING CIVIL WAR AND TO START KILLING PEOPLE WHO ARENT ON BOARD WITH OUR NAZI V2 BULLSHIT!”, those are Trump’s cronies saying this shit.

                The Democrats are out there saying to show up and vote.

                Big fucking difference, and the pedantry of your question says you’re trying to troll, or completely ignorant at best if you can’t tell the difference on your own. WTF.

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    Odds are there will be no real civil war. The assault on the capitol only worked because Trump was in power letting it happen, and even then they didn’t get too far. A lot of those assholes went to prison.

    Go vote and let them attack the US gov.

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      People are too comfortable to have a civil war. People will rebel when they’re hungry, jobless, and have zero prospect for the future.

      It’s gonna have to get a lot worse before then if a war were to happen.

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          Things were not going well in 1860 for black people.

          Also, the north couldn’t compete economically with the south because the south had all the free labor and longer growing season.

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    So they’re moving on to this to scare people from voting because they know they’re absolutely fucked right now. Fuck that nonsense, VOTE. Volunteer to help give rides to people that otherwise wouldn’t be able to vote.

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    (Reposting from another thread)

    Enough is enough. Shit like this is putting us on a path for another insurrection.

    Here is a sample letter to provide George Lang, especially if you are an OH resident. George Lang contact form

    subject: “Call for Resignation Due to Undemocratic Remarks”

    Dear Senator Lang,

    I am writing to express my profound disappointment and concern regarding your recent comments about the potential need for a civil war if certain political outcomes are not achieved. Your statement, “I’m afraid if we lose this one, it’s going to take a civil war to save the country, and it will be saved,” is not only deeply irresponsible but also fundamentally undemocratic. Such rhetoric is dangerous and unbecoming of a public servant in a democratic society.

    As a concerned citizen, I am compelled to voice my strong objection to your words. They undermine the very principles upon which our nation was founded: the peaceful transition of power and the rule of law. Democracy thrives on debate, disagreement, and ultimately, the will of the people as expressed through free and fair elections. The suggestion that violence is an acceptable response to losing an election is antithetical to these principles.

    An apology for this grave error is simply not sufficient. The damage caused by promoting the idea of civil unrest as a solution to political disagreement cannot be undone with mere words of regret. Your statement has the potential to incite division and violence, putting our nation and its citizens at risk.

    In light of the seriousness of your comments, I call on you to resign from your position as a United States Senator. The responsibilities of your office require a commitment to uphold democratic values and to lead with integrity. Your recent remarks have shown a disregard for these responsibilities, and as such, stepping down is the most honorable course of action you can take for the sake of our country’s stability and unity.

    The United States faces numerous challenges that require thoughtful, collaborative solutions. It is imperative that our leaders prioritize dialogue and cooperation over divisive and inflammatory rhetoric. I urge you to consider the impact of your words and to take responsibility for them by resigning your seat.

    Sincerely,

    [Your First Name]

    Additionally i encourage looking up your Senators and contacting them as well:

    Subject: “Urgent: Call to Denounce Undemocratic Rhetoric and Advocate for Resignation”

    Dear Senator [Senator’s Name],

    I am writing to express my profound disappointment and concern regarding recent comments made by Senator George Lang about the potential need for a civil war if certain political outcomes are not achieved. His statement, “I’m afraid if we lose this one, it’s going to take a civil war to save the country, and it will be saved,” is not only deeply irresponsible but also fundamentally undemocratic. Such rhetoric is dangerous and unbecoming of a public servant in a democratic society.

    As your constituent, I am compelled to voice my strong objection to such words. They undermine the very principles upon which our nation was founded: the peaceful transition of power and the rule of law. Democracy thrives on debate, disagreement, and ultimately, the will of the people as expressed through free and fair elections. The suggestion that violence is an acceptable response to losing an election is antithetical to these principles.

    An apology for this grave error is simply not sufficient. The damage caused by promoting the idea of civil unrest as a solution to political disagreement cannot be undone with mere words of regret. His statement has the potential to incite division and violence, putting our nation and its citizens at risk.

    In light of the seriousness of these comments, I call on you to take a stand against such rhetoric. I urge you to publicly denounce these remarks and advocate for Senator Lang’s resignation from his position. The responsibilities of a United States Senator require a commitment to uphold democratic values and to lead with integrity. His recent remarks have shown a disregard for these responsibilities, and as such, stepping down is the most honorable course of action he can take for the sake of our country’s stability and unity.

    The United States faces numerous challenges that require thoughtful, collaborative solutions. It is imperative that our leaders prioritize dialogue and cooperation over divisive and inflammatory rhetoric. I urge you to consider the impact of these words and to take a firm stand for democracy.

    Thank you for your attention to this matter. I look forward to your response and to seeing our representatives uphold the values that make our country strong.

    Sincerely,

    [Your Name]

    Make sure to send to both senators, regardless of their party.

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      I promise you they don’t read this shit and either have free volunteering moronic and willing slave laborers read this or pay a few interns minimum wage to read all this shit and send back pre-written canned replies.

      Sending this is likely a complete waste of fucking time. I wouldn’t know for sure, but I’m willing to bet money on it.

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    The extremes of both parties appear to believe that their opponent’s victory would end American democracy. I don’t mean to equate the two parties (I think only the red one is actually a threat). I’m just worried that we’ll be seeing much more violence than we’re used to.