• blazera@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    3 months ago

    This is upper elementary school strawmans. I aint seen people using 1s and !s to try and make someone sound dumb since early 4chan.

    • someguy3@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      3 months ago

      Not strawmans, again he is literally demanding the entire world change end over end in 2 years. Are you/we going to play repeat now? Sounds like fun.

      • blazera@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        3 months ago

        Every part of that is a strawman. There are zero demands in the post, no references to the entire world or 2 years, in fact his specific accusations you are intentionally strawmanning away from span his very lengthy career as a politician. Do you know what a strawman is, are you aware you almost exclusively address arguments with a strawman? Its ingrained into how you type even

        • someguy3@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          0
          ·
          3 months ago

          Nope not a strawman, that’s what he demands when he says the world hasn’t changed in 2 years wrt drilling. The time frame is 2 years, as explained before. See repeat, you say yes, I say no.

            • someguy3@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              edit-2
              3 months ago

              More repeat? Are we having fun yet? Not a strawman when it actually captures what he says, he wants the world to overhaul on a dime.

              • blazera@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                0
                ·
                3 months ago

                Im noticing a severe lack of quotes of what they said to help support your claim.

                • someguy3@lemmy.world
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  ·
                  edit-2
                  3 months ago

                  Oh the strawman accusation isn’t working out so you demand quotations now. Oh wait you didn’t say the specific word “demand” so I can’t say you just demanded, according to your logic. So again, it captured what he said. Fun times yet?

                  • blazera@lemmy.world
                    link
                    fedilink
                    English
                    arrow-up
                    0
                    ·
                    3 months ago

                    No, quotes would be the easy way of proving youre not strawmanning. If they said what you claim they said that would be my immediate go to. But my brain is wired to address what people say, not strawmen

            • davidagain@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              3 months ago

              “When he says” followed by a paraphrase of what he said, or followed by the underlying logic of what he said, is not a strawman.

              • blazera@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                0
                ·
                3 months ago

                Sure. But youve given neither. Im not being cheeky with technicalities like “oh he used a synonym but he didnt use that exact word”. Nothing alluding to a demand, nothing alluding to the entire world, nothing alluding to a 2 year timeframe. Youve made all of it up.

                  • blazera@lemmy.world
                    link
                    fedilink
                    English
                    arrow-up
                    0
                    ·
                    3 months ago

                    Oh its someone else now. Alright you gonna try explaining how the guy making specific criticisms of Bidens own actions was actually demanding the entire world change in 2 years? Throw in some stutters and 1s and !s to help sell it.