Can you imagine a VP debate between an actual fucking astronaut and Peter Thiel’s former blood boy?
HELL YES
Anecdote time: last week a 30 year old woman I work with stated with confidence she wouldn’t be voting this year. Earlier today she told me she would be voting for Harris and asked who the vp would be. I said Shapiro, beshear, or Kelly. She looked up each of them on Wikipedia and immediately said something to the effect of, “why have I never heard of Kelly? I’d vote for this guy at the top of the ticket. I hope she picks him.”
The guy’s bio speaks for itself. Plus we’d get fun twins hijinks at the naval observatory and I think we as a nation need that.
He does not support Medicare for all, and also does not support the green new deal, according to his wiki. He also supported increased oil drilling.
So he’s pretty moderate right IMO, which sucks. I hope he’s not her choice.
Yeah, see this is why I was so attached to Biden. The average Democrat isn’t really all that left. All this stuff with climate change and unions under Biden was very much an anomaly, and we’re probably returning to a certain amount of status quo with Harris.
Idk, I could be wrong; maybe she’s super left and this guy’s being floated as a gift to the New York Timeses of the world so the ticket will be acceptable to the six figure Manhattan shitheads that their editors are friends with, so they won’t print bullshit about her to try to lose her the election. And she still doesn’t want to destroy American democracy and all climate change remediation since Obama, which makes her worth voting for. But yeah we can expect a certain amount of corporate bullshit to come back into the equation now, I think. 😕
The average Democrat is to the left of their representatives on a lot of things, including climate change: https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/08/09/what-the-data-says-about-americans-views-of-climate-change/
Kelly is not an average Democrat representative, he’s definitely on the right end of the caucus.
Yet the people around this instance thinks he’s a great VP candidate…
Funny how you’re upvoted a lot for mentioning this, but someone else does, then it’s a downvote parade.
If the goal is preventing Trump from winning and shoring up harris’s weak points, Kelly is a pretty good choice. We can argue about drilling and green energy after Trump is in jail for all his crimes.
Trump is never going to jail. For fuck sakes, when will you stop drinking that kool-aid? It’s a practical fantasy at this point. If he hadn’t gone to jail for two impeachments and so far hasn’t gone to jail for the recent convictions - what makes you think he’ll ever go to jail now? Get over it.
So, we’d swap out a too-old guy for a younger person with a too-old guy as her backup? Sigh…
I hope trump wins out of spite against the snowflakes who’re overly sensitive and don’t understand the implications of how weak of a VP Mark Kelly is.
Almost 10 comments in this thread and near 400 words from you without one single explanation of WHY Mark Kelly is a bad choice. You’re one example of why voters are so uninformed, you would rather argue than present anything credible for others to learn.
Nah, not going to. Some of the others who have commented have stated their reasons and I sided with them. Perhaps if you’ve taken at least a minute into my post history while you’re downvoting every comment like a little stupid child (hey this isn’t Reddit by the way so points don’t affect me in the rate I’m posting so ha). You would see what comments I’ve responded to!
Like mind blowing shit there.
You could just state you don’t understand political strategy without also insulting everyone…yikes.
Nope, with you assholes throwing the first stone, it’s no point in doing so. Why entertain assholes with trying to be serious when you pricks weren’t being serious to begin with aside from jousting because you’re ironically being triggered by my responses, huh?
You can’t have it both ways.
Spite, eh. You’re a turd, man.
And you’re a trolling shitlord yourself.
Not a fan, and I don’t like his relative lack of political experience. However, his status as a white male veteran who is the husband of Gabby Gifford could win some points.
Hate that it comes to that, but this is what we get. Fuck, I just want out of this shithole.
The military background shuts up a lot. As it should.
How’s that going to help anything? Right now, we’re looking for solutions to improve our society through progressive means. Fighting wars is not the answer regardless if formerly served or actively served.
Oh, but some of the clueless idiots here think he’s a WONDERFUL choice apparently. God damn, people are such fucking morons that don’t know anything about the candidates thoroughly. They just saw him as a replacement, got a boner and now will smite anyone critical of it.
Stupid idiotic voters are the bane of our existence every election cycle. We should hold them accountable as much as politicians. Because their stupid decisions fucks us all over.
Bawww, some people in this magazine are funny.
Cwy to the modewators, shitheads. lol
Lol, not reading responses, just insta-blocking. Don’t care. Good bye.
I’m Canadian so I don’t really get a say in this, but he seems like a decent guy. Most astronauts are hard working, smart, and know to rely on other smart people to get tasks accomplished. His wife ain’t no pushover either, nobody can question that couple’s commitment to America.
It’s funny. Literally every astronaut I’ve met is exactly like this - quietly competent, affable, team player. As is the astronaut candidate I’ve met.
And yet…
Every person I’ve met who has been keen on becoming an astronaut or astronaut candidate has been an insufferable self-aggrandizing jerk face. Like, just awful people who suck all the air out of any room they’re in, expounding on how they (or the idea they’re selling) are the most amazing thing ever.
Whoa wait hol up
How many astronauts have you met???
I fucking hate this reality right now.
Like okay, the chances of Harris winning at all is slim enough if barely. Having this prick from what I gathered, will not improve anything.
“WE D-D-DID GERD JERB! WE PROUDS DAT WE MADE SUMEONE PROFILE KARMA IN NEGATIVE LIKE DAT MATTERS AT ALL! WE DID DONE GEHD GAIS! HRUHRURHURURHHRURHURHRURUH”
Someone is triggered.
Maybe if you had some sort of argument as to why you didn’t like him, but I’ve heard nothing but good things. Willing to have my mind changed if you actually have anything more than misplaced raged.
Pfffft, I could have made one but with the infantile reaction you’ve all taken with potshots, rabid downvoting and everything. Do you guys honestly think you would’ve taken a rational counterargument? I doubt it. Don’t lie to yourselves. For everytime you spam the word ‘triggered’ or whatever, your actions speak louder than your little words could.
Bunch of entitled manchildren you all are.
Sure. He’s white, straight, and male, to balance out the ticket for racists/sexists/homophobes. Package him, ship him out, and let’s defeat Trump and Project 2025!
Also astronaut, veteran, and fairly progressive.
Could you shortly define “fairly progressive” in this context for a non-American? (Nordic, specifically.)
Don’t ask lemmings to define people’s progressive cred rofl
Literally nobody is left wing. It’s a pure, unattainable ideal, untainted by mortals and their worldly failings.
I don’t hate him, but he’s already 60. That means that if Harris goes 1 term and loses, or goes 2 terms and can’t run again, Kelly is 68 before he can run himself, which he will inevitably do. If he’s 68 when he starts, then he is running the country in his 70s and we have made 0 progress on this age problem that seems to plague presidential candidates. Beshear is 46, which keeps him in his 50s for most of his terms.
People around here seem to love old farts despite bitching about how tired they are of old farts running the country.
Ironic.
