President Joe Biden, speaking to the nation from the Oval Office Wednesday evening, framed his decision to step aside from the 2024 presidential race as a matter of saving democracy and passing “the torch to a new generation.”
He is stepping aside and letting his VP, who has very notably not supported Israel, take the lead. Can you shut your piehole for a second? You got what you wanted, “Genocide Joe” is no more.
if your goal is a world where no one ever says anything good about biden, ever, then you’re in for a disappointing life.
also, if you think the united states will ever stop sending money and weapons to israel due to many many economic, geopolitical and military strategic factors–same thing, get ready for sadpepe.gif for the rest of your days.
LOL saying “biden did a good thing” is not supporting genocide, no matter how hard some people wish it were. as others have said, you CAN oppose some of a person’s actions and praise others.
i will add though, for THIS election, trying to convince people that they’re “supporting genocide” by voting at all is not only an egregiously, laughably flawed argument, but it’s making things worse, not better
And I think everyone should vote against fascism. Can you please stop this bullshit, all you’re doing is pushing an agenda designed to get Trump to win and it’s honestly so exhausting.
am i voting for harris? yes. was i going to vote for biden? yes.
do i support genocide? no.
but your “solution” of vote third party, or don’t vote at all, is a vote that is NOT canceling out a trump vote. am i accusing you of supporting genocide? or fascism? even though those arguments could be made, easily-- no, i’m not. do what you will, but trying to accuse people of supporting genocide because they vote D is some trumpy fucking bullshit
She hasn’t been afforded the chance in the current context to actually express her true stance. I expect it to be much more tepid towards Israel than Biden’s, but at the same time, we are trying to prevent a fascist takeover here, and it is a very fucking bad idea to piss off AIPAC in that context, as infuriating as that is to admit. She’s got to walk a tightrope to win back Arab-Americans that Biden foolishly pushed away, but at the same time can’t afford to have AIPAC putting all hands on deck to try to kill her campaign.
TL;DR: foreign influence organizations both covert and overt - including, but not limited to, AIPAC - need to be cracked down on aggressively, but I really don’t see that happening until after the election at the very least. And even then, the odds are low, because they’ll all just bribe tons of politicians and offer quid pro quos lobby against any such laws. Its a huge problem and it’s proven to be infuriatingly intractable for AGES.
He is stepping aside and letting his VP, who has very notably not supported Israel, take the lead. Can you shut your piehole for a second? You got what you wanted, “Genocide Joe” is no more.
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if your goal is a world where no one ever says anything good about biden, ever, then you’re in for a disappointing life.
also, if you think the united states will ever stop sending money and weapons to israel due to many many economic, geopolitical and military strategic factors–same thing, get ready for sadpepe.gif for the rest of your days.
Stop feeding him lol. Clearly incapable of nuanced conversation.
yea… he got boring much quicker than the other guy
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LOL saying “biden did a good thing” is not supporting genocide, no matter how hard some people wish it were. as others have said, you CAN oppose some of a person’s actions and praise others.
i will add though, for THIS election, trying to convince people that they’re “supporting genocide” by voting at all is not only an egregiously, laughably flawed argument, but it’s making things worse, not better
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that’s what’s called a ‘freudian slip’
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And I think everyone should vote against fascism. Can you please stop this bullshit, all you’re doing is pushing an agenda designed to get Trump to win and it’s honestly so exhausting.
am i voting for harris? yes. was i going to vote for biden? yes.
do i support genocide? no.
but your “solution” of vote third party, or don’t vote at all, is a vote that is NOT canceling out a trump vote. am i accusing you of supporting genocide? or fascism? even though those arguments could be made, easily-- no, i’m not. do what you will, but trying to accuse people of supporting genocide because they vote D is some trumpy fucking bullshit
If the thing you give up is obnoxious axe grinding, then yes.
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She’s light years better than Biden.
But she still takes AIPAC money, and spoke at their conference 7 years ago after they helped get her senate seat
https://www.vox.com/2024-elections/362782/kamala-harris-gaza-israel-palestine-biden-netanyahu
But we literally just saw public criticism work, why are you so quick to say we have to stop?
We can’t just show up once every four years and vote. We need constant pressure on politicians for them to do the right thing
Because there’s constant pressure on them to do the wrong thing, and that almost always comes with “donations”.
Stop.
She hasn’t been afforded the chance in the current context to actually express her true stance. I expect it to be much more tepid towards Israel than Biden’s, but at the same time, we are trying to prevent a fascist takeover here, and it is a very fucking bad idea to piss off AIPAC in that context, as infuriating as that is to admit. She’s got to walk a tightrope to win back Arab-Americans that Biden foolishly pushed away, but at the same time can’t afford to have AIPAC putting all hands on deck to try to kill her campaign.
TL;DR: foreign influence organizations both covert and overt - including, but not limited to, AIPAC - need to be cracked down on aggressively, but I really don’t see that happening until after the election at the very least. And even then, the odds are low, because they’ll all just
bribe tons of politicians and offer quid pro quoslobby against any such laws. Its a huge problem and it’s proven to be infuriatingly intractable for AGES.