• astronaut_sloth@mander.xyz
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    4 months ago

    I can see the allure for places wanting to keep certain trouble-makers out as a precaution, but this gets so close to a privatized social credit score that it’s beyond uncomfortable.

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      4 months ago

      I feel like you should not be allowed to record any data until there’s a documented case with a police report at minimum. At that point, potentially restricting action becomes a legitimate security need.

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        4 months ago

        Idk about that level of escalation being necessary, maybe just repeat offenses. Where I went to college it’s got to be super serious for police to come into a bar.

        Repeat fights, or pukes on the floor, or belligerence to staff are all things I would think would be decent grounds to be turned away by ID. I mean, that happens now at gas stations and restaurants with security cam photos saying “don’t serve this person” posted at the register except it’s more public.

        I suppose it depends what data is recorded though, they don’t need your home address.

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          4 months ago

          You can already handle people being repeated nuisances at a specific location without issue.

          Sharing any information at all absolutely should require a police report (and I’m aware that they already violate privacy other ways; that’s also not OK).

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      4 months ago

      yeah, promising security/convenience over liberty is how they reel us in every time

      that and protecting the kids