That’s correct. It’s also horrible for the comments section because people hate-downvote comments they disagree with, which in turn leads to people avoiding making possibly unpopular comments. It’s really hurtful to meaningful discussion.
Yes but karma makes it worse. It incentivizes getting getting upvotes because you don’t want to “ruin” your karma. Expressing controversial opinions, even if they don’t generate downvotes, are discouraged with karma. Even OP says he gets a dopamine hit by seeing the karma number go up.
is that it helps to keep away hate, racism, trash and dangerous content in most of the subs/communities
No, it reinforces values and creates an echo chamber. In communities that value left wing values, it drowns out right wing values, and vice versa. I learned that the hard way.
A long time ago, I moderated a place that had lot of room for discussion, and people of opposing opinions often had discussions. I then added a scoring system, thinking it would be nice for people to keep track. But all it did was kill the diversity of opinions. People whose opinions were slightly outside of mainstream, saw their opinion getting downvoted and adapted their speech patterns accordingly, or just left altogether. Within a year, what was once a neutral idea thinktank got turned into a giant conservative circlejerk.
Long term result: polarization galore. That site tipped to the right whereas Reddit tipped to left. Either way, you’re basically ostracized for suggesting “the other side” may have a point with some things, or to try and encourage to figure out the reasoning why someone might think the way they do.
I sincerely hope Lemmy doesn’t follow that direction.
Everything else is still there in regards to how posts are shown and sorted by votes, as well as people in general just liking humor. I don’t think Lemmy is fundamentally any different in that trend.
I don’t like karma. It incentivizes short, meme-y posts since those are things that get gets a lot of karma.
That’s correct. It’s also horrible for the comments section because people hate-downvote comments they disagree with, which in turn leads to people avoiding making possibly unpopular comments. It’s really hurtful to meaningful discussion.
Upload and down vote are still present, and unless I’m mistaken this comment section I’m looking at is still sorted by vote score.
Hate down votes are inevitable, I don’t think they are a result of your total number of points being displayed on your profile.
I believe downvotes can be disabled at the instance level. (Small note)
That is an issues with the up vote/down vote system.
But a good thing with that system, is that it helps to keep away hate, racism, trash and dangerous content in most of the subs/communities.
So it’s a bad for a good? Sorting by controversial on big posts often show trash and hate on reddit.
Yes but karma makes it worse. It incentivizes getting getting upvotes because you don’t want to “ruin” your karma. Expressing controversial opinions, even if they don’t generate downvotes, are discouraged with karma. Even OP says he gets a dopamine hit by seeing the karma number go up.
No, it reinforces values and creates an echo chamber. In communities that value left wing values, it drowns out right wing values, and vice versa. I learned that the hard way.
A long time ago, I moderated a place that had lot of room for discussion, and people of opposing opinions often had discussions. I then added a scoring system, thinking it would be nice for people to keep track. But all it did was kill the diversity of opinions. People whose opinions were slightly outside of mainstream, saw their opinion getting downvoted and adapted their speech patterns accordingly, or just left altogether. Within a year, what was once a neutral idea thinktank got turned into a giant conservative circlejerk.
Long term result: polarization galore. That site tipped to the right whereas Reddit tipped to left. Either way, you’re basically ostracized for suggesting “the other side” may have a point with some things, or to try and encourage to figure out the reasoning why someone might think the way they do.
I sincerely hope Lemmy doesn’t follow that direction.
Everything else is still there in regards to how posts are shown and sorted by votes, as well as people in general just liking humor. I don’t think Lemmy is fundamentally any different in that trend.