• Wanderer@lemm.ee
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    3 months ago

    It’s because you are trying to fix a difficult problem with an easy solution that just pushes the can down the road.

    Problem: We don’t train enough NHS staff

    Solution: Train the same amount of NHS staff, reduce their (real) wages and hire immigrants.

    The issue of shit pay and not enough education is still there.

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      3 months ago

      Actually its been a problem since at least the 1970s. When my father worked for a hospital as a charge nurse. He was paid to travel to nations to hire nurses. Mainly jamaca and a few others at the time. .

      This was a tume when all UK higher education was free.

      The issue is more about how much we pay nurses compared to other nations. Vs how shitty the job is.

      And you will notice we solve it the same way most other nations do. Recruit from nations that pay even less. Just like the US and AUS recruites from the UK we recruit from eastern wleurope africa etc etc etc.

      If you want to fix it without immigration. You need to pay UK nurses etc competitivly with the US.

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        3 months ago

        I don’t think we need to pay the same as the US.

        But I agree paying nurses more is the right thing to do. The fact that it will increase number of people moving into that job and reduce immigration is also a good thing.

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          3 months ago

          I don’t think we need to pay the same as the US.

          The issue with that is at times like this. When economics are bad. The UK has a long history of emigration. And medical professionals are by far the most in demand worldwide.

          If this nation, dos’e not offer a competitive standard of living compared to other nations. Those that can leave will and always have.

          So yes, if you want to keep people in the field. You must either appeal to those from a lessor standard of living. Or raise yours to your competitor’s level.

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            3 months ago

            People don’t work like that and there are costs your aren’t rationalising.

            Things like pensions, healthcare, PTO, lower crime. But even then I think most people want to stay at home. So a large difference will cause a large movement when times are bad. But a small price difference isn’t going to cause all the UK medical staff to move like a perfect competitive market.

            UK people need to be paid more, bit not the same as the US.