• Tankiedesantski [he/him]@hexbear.net
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        Funnily enough, the US is an oligarchy, does not have universal health care, has absolutely shithouse protections for indigenous peoples, and a corporate controlled press that engages in self censorship. By this guy’s criteria, America is not an independent sovereign country.

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        The “ROC” committed genocide against indigenous culture as part of the 40-years known as the White Terror. WTF are you talking about?

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      None of the things you stated matter even a little as far as international law is concerned. You might subjectively think that those factors make an independent country, but your subjective opinion simply doesn’t matter because international law determines statehood, not am arbitrary list of “oh, well that’s nice” factors.

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        Do you not understand what “burocracy” mean? it is the case “burocracically”, but “functionally” Taiwan and China are simply not tied whatsoever. Hence calling Taiwan part of China is “unhelpful”.

        Feel like I am teaching in an elementary school…

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          Thankfully you are not teaching in an elementary school because I would expect an elementary school teacher to know the correct spelling of “bureaucracy”.

          The point you are flailing at is that Taiwan, Province of China is de jure part of China (and the vast majority of the world’s nations recognizes the People’s Republic of China as the sole legitimate government of China. De facto there is another entity occupying Taiwan Province.

          Contrary to you claim that they are “not tied whatsoever”, the ROC splinter government on Taiwan maintains a de jure claim over all of China (plus Mongolia) as blatantly illustrated by the official emblem of the ROC Marine Corps:

          No country or international organization recognizes de facto control as the primary determing factor of independence or sovereignty. This is why terrorist organizations like ISIS or criminal gangs like certain cartels aren’t considered sovereign states simply because they occupy and administer territory.

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          It’s bureaucracy and bureaucratically

          I’m not even trying to be a dick, I just had to look up what you wrote to make sure that it wasn’t something else.

          Furthermore, your point is correct regardless of whether or not people agree with the PRC or ROC being the leader of China overall, Taiwan province is an independently functioning government.

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      The “ROC” committed genocide against indigenous culture as part of the 40-years known as the White Terror. WTF are you talking about?

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      Taiwan (RoC) is politically independent from China. It is a democratic state with universal healthcare, excellent protection of indigenous culture, and a highly rated free press.

      I like how this part reads like a chatbot.

    • excellent protection of indigenous culture

      Lmao, this is like saying the US has excellent protection of indigenous culture.

      Recognized or not, it is a independent political, economical, and cultural entity from China. Calling it part of China is just unhelpful burocracy.

      Except for the part that they claim they are part of China, are strongly economically coupled with China, and are full of Chinese people, sure.