In the recent Lemmy developer update, there’s a reference to one Lemmy developer, SleeplessOne1917.

I found some horrifying comments from this user.

https://lemmygrad.ml/comment/2649200 - “There is no such thing as an Israeli civilian. All settlers are valid targets.”

https://lemmygrad.ml/comment/2649472 - “15 year olds are military age. That makes them valid targets for killing.”

https://lemmygrad.ml/comment/2649732 - “… There is no such thing as a zionoid civilian. Everything that moves and isn’t Palestinian is a valid target. …”

Webarchive: https://web.archive.org/web/20231009171047/https://lemmy.ml/u/CannotSleep420@lemmygrad.ml

Edit: New comment from the user “Cry more. Israelis need to be eliminated. Death to Israel, and death to Amerikkka!”

https://web.archive.org/web/20231009171510/https://lemmygrad.ml/comment/2592588

https://web.archive.org/web/20231009171739/https://lemmygrad.ml/post/750810

https://web.archive.org/web/20231009171907/https://lemmy.ml/comment/4569805

https://web.archive.org/web/20231009172817/https://lemmy.ml/comment/4413706

https://github.com/SleeplessOne1917

  • NOT_RICK@lemmy.world
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    Friendly reminder that it’s very easy to sympathize with the plight of the Palestinians without glorifying terrorists.

    For a similar example, I support the cause of a United Ireland but that doesn’t mean I support the IRA. Be better than that.

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      True, but there are not very many people contributing a lot of code, so this guy has a lot of sway over which items get prioritized out of the massive backlog.

      And as a mod, I’d really like the few people coding to produce some expanded moderation tools… so I can easily spot and address toxic comments like the ones this dev makes.

      IMHO, this guy’s behavior feels like it conflicts with his current influence over Lemmy’s mod toolset.

      Edit: typos

      • Ategon@programming.dev
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        Ive been working on a soft fork of lemmy called Pangora to prioritize development on different areas that the main lemmy codebase has been neglecting (such as mod tools). Gives a different option than the main lemmy codebase for supporting development and as redundancy for if anything goes wrong (although not production ready atm as its still getting mostly set up) !pangora@programming.dev

    • Spzi@lemm.ee
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      Stories like these can make it less likely that other people contribute to the code, making the platform grow slower, which affects all instances.

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    There is no indication whatsoever that @SleeplessOne1917 is the same person as @cannotsleep420. Jesus, people, stop pissing yourselves for the literal 30 seconds it took to fact check this bullshit claim.

    *edit: I took the liberty of finding the actual dev’s account: /u/SleeplessOne1917@lemmy.ml. It took a whole additional minute. You’re welcome

    *edit 2: /u/NOT_RICK@lemmy.world has some links below that do indeed link /u/SleeplessOne1917@lemmy.ml to /u/CannotSleep420@lemmygrad.ml. Soooo, while I don’t regret my nearly infinite capacity for skepticism, but it looks like this story has some legs. Hat tip to NOT_RICK, who is adamantly not Rick.

    • NOT_RICK@lemmy.world
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      You might want to reinvestigate. @cannotsleep420 is the one that made those comments and they are a dev.

        • TWeaK@lemm.ee
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          1 year ago

          No worries. A couple other things:

          • /c/community@instance and @community@instance will work for communities.
          • /u/user@instance is instance agnostic but will not generate a mention to the user’s inbox.
          • [linktext](http://instance/u/user) will link to the user’s instance only, but it sends a mention to them. You can also do this by starting to type @user@instance and selecting the user from the dropdown box (on the website, not necessarily in apps).
          • The different apps for lemmy don’t necessarily always work correctly in line with the website, but they’ll catch up.
          • Each post is actually primarily hosted at that user’s instance, then federated from there. So if you’re a lemmy.world user and post in a lemmy.ml community, your post will actually post at lemmy.world first and then federate. It isn’t necessarily hosted in the community’s instance. The same is true for every comment - hence why you won’t see comments from users in an instance yours isn’t federated with, even if they are federated with the post’s instance and can comment in the thread.
          • You can’t really do anything with posts or comments to jump across instances, as each instance assigns a different number to the same content. Hopefully one day they’ll change it so the url is more like http://instance/post/123456@hostinstance in everywhere but the federated host instance. But it’s all still in early development.
  • 🦄🦄🦄@feddit.de
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    What a creepy asshole. He should probbaly get back to /pol/, seems like he’d fit on there better.

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    You know, I came to lemmy because I was disgusted with the reddit admins and devs. And this shit just is not helping.

    • TORFdot0@lemmy.world
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      For the most part, Lemmy instances are separate from the developers. But the great thing about ActivityPub and the fediverse is that we can move platforms and keep the same content. Kbin can subscribe to the same communities that Lemmy can.

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        Yeah, this is one of the best parts of the fediverse. It’s not just another plattform like Reddit. It’s a bunch of Plattforms of various services, even Lemmy is just hundreds of small Reddits that connect to each other. Meaning we are not beholden to one person like on Reddit to participate in the fediverse.

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      Understand that the Lemmy devs do not have ultimate power over your instance, and that your instance admins may feel very differently to them

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      The difference here is that these people aren’t really running the show. They’re in charge of the main development branch, but that’s just back end code, and it is (or should be) reviewed by every admin when they use it to implement their instance. Development can be adopted or forked by other people, should politics get in the way.

      It’s the morals of your own instance and its admin that are most important, these are the ones synonymous with reddit’s staff. In fact, it’s possible for the instance to put whatever code they want up. It can easily be non-standard to official lemmy, so you really are trusting them rather than the main lemmy devs.

      • P03 Locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        OP user joined two hours ago, and this subject is literally the only thing OP has posted about, on four different forums.

        Is it too much to ask for minimum requirements for posting in a community?

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    Lemmygrad and hexbear serve as a propaganda wing of for people that make being communist their whole life. You can block certain feds to clear out your feed.

    I wouldn’t get riled up about it, they literaly say stuff to upset you so you react.

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        The Internet is not safe, just got wade through the shit to make it to something good them make a path toward it by getting rid of the noise.

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          I don’t expect it to be safe, and I do expect to fight against authoritarian propaganda when I see it.

        • GONADS125@lemmy.world
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          All the drama and hateful trolls are extremely similar to the growing pains of reddit 15 years ago. The rational healthy users outnumber the hateful crazies, and that trend will continue as the userbase grows.

          I hope…

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            I hope so too but I’m not optimistic. I was on Reddit before most people and it didn’t have anywhere this level of authoritarian propaganda.

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        It’s world’s better. But still chick full of Leninist. So still problematic because of that. On the whole though they don’t brigade like hexbear or lemmygrad. Hell a large swath of their users are ironically not leninists even. However, when you do find one that is Leninist yeah you’re gonna get toxic irrationality. But no worse than your average capitalist or neo-libertarian.

        • awwwyissss@lemm.ee
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          I just had several calm, rational comments deleted with no reason given. I can only assume it’s because I was correcting a lie that made the CCP look better. A bunch of other people’s comments got deleted in the same thread.

          In other words, lemmy.ml had strict censorship in order to support an authoritarian government. It’s a cancer on the Fediverse.

      • froggers@lemmy.world
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        right now you can only block communities. if everything goes according to plan, instance block should arrive with the next update, which is supposedly 1 month away.

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        So I use Jebora on my android phone and if I go directly onto communities front page and a 3 dot icon on the top right side of the page it will say in the options 'block community" might have to block individually but there ain’t that many large communities that will have such a loud voice.

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      Yeah the code might be fine. But if I want to support the development of Lemmy, say with a donation, am I financially supporting a piece of shit?

      I’m not saying every contributor has to be thoroughly vetted, or that I have to agree politically with every contributor. It just feels icky, and I get the concern users have.

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        I donate to Lemmy.world but that doesn’t go to this Lemmy dev in question, only Ruud and his team. You can donate to specific instance admins who aren’t batshit crazy hateful scumbags and support the growth of healthy instances.

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          Code does not exist in isolation from the community of developers that produced it. Who we collaborate with defines us, to some degree.

        • bilboswaggings@sopuli.xyz
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          OMFG He isn’t getting the death penalty just because we don’t donate to him

          The whole point is to disincentivise people to act like this, it doesn’t ruin the product but to a certain extent you are supporting his views if you support him financially

          Maybe because they are not around other people is the reason why they act like this, you are more likely to see others as people if you are part of the society instead of being withdrawn and hiding behind a username

          I would much rather have this guy at McDonalds or an Amazon warehouse putting stuff in boxes than part of social media dev team

          Because yes even though this is open source people make decisions and can affect how information is received

          There is a reason why users stay away from for example Truth social and Rumble, we don’t want to associate with that stuff… also why companies fire employees who say and do bad stuff on the internet

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    I thought we were already aware that the devs are deranged lmao

  • willya@lemmyf.uk
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    Anyone is able to contribute to the code. Are you saying we need background checks before contributions? Also as pointed out in another comment you didn’t prove any connection between the two usernames either.

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    Idc about his political views. I’m still thankful he is talking the time to working on developing lemmy.

    Right now there’s a million spicy takes on this conflict.

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      Good God man.

      Just because there are competing perspectives does not mean that all perspectives are equally appropriate.

      Just because someone does something that benefits you personally does not give them a free pass for being a fuck head

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        He made the comment on an instance that supports that kind of extreme speech. The comment was appropriate in the place that he made it. I don’t care if someone’s a fuck head its not a big deal to me.

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      I for one would prefer that the dev of the tools I use doesn’t celebrate the deaths of children just because of where they happened to be born. Calling that just a “spicy take” is ridiculous.

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        Let’s read it correctly, instead of distorting it. The quotes above argued that 15yr Olds are valid targets, not celebrating their death and not all all children. I realize the difference doesn’t matter much, but in discussion is better to be clear

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        Opinions are like buttholes, everyone has one.

        I imagine you look into someone’s life deep enough, there is eventually something you are going to disagree ethically about.

        I think that is why it is important to have the conversation, rather then pretend the issue doesn’t exist. Because that is what Israel has been doing for 20 years. It is also why the people of Israel and Palestine have bodies in the streets.

        This is 20 years of inaction boiling over into one single event. We either learn the lesson, or continue in ignorance.

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        I’m sure some of the Foss software I use has had nazis contribute. It doesn’t worry me what a random non political figure says on the internet.

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            That’s not dodging your question. I answered that I don’t care. Actual nazi’s have made contributions to some of the technology we use today and you aren’t kicking up a stink about that.

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      this is not just some “political views” or a “spicy take” this is someone advocating for the murder of a group of people. you can’t just centrist your way out of this

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      Pease consider the opposite; if a fork is needed at some point in the future, we need people who are familiar with the codebase. It would be, for example, much better for 3 of 4 contributors to be sane than only 2 of 3.

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    War is dirty, always has been.

    And the year/decade long war/geconide in Palestine/Israel? Sponsored by the west and an utter humanitarian shitshow.

    Standing on their own, those statements are sure horrible. But you gotta see the grand picture, then you can only despair and perhaps turn your gaze away or you will be plagued by sleepless nights.