• Tujio@lemmy.world
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    No. They just know that Republicans and their cable news sycophants will do the exact thing they did with the Hur report.

    Ignore the overall findings, find one sentence in it that spins it negative, soundbite the fuck out of it, and repeat it ad nauseum.

    And yes, this is the same thing Trump did. And Obama. And Bush. This has been a standard move for decades. It’s just news now because of the regressive morons in congress and their orange dictator-in-waiting.

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      Republicans are going to say stupid shit anyways…

      They’re already saying it.

      The only reason to hide the tapes, is they make Biden look bad. If he had his shit together, they’d be trying to release them to show people the report was biased.

      Candidate:

      This would exonate me!

      Everyone else:

      Can we see/hear it?

      Candidate:

      Objection! If people saw/heard this, it would make me look bad!

      This is a bad thing regardless of the letter next to a candidates name.

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      Ignore the overall findings

      That’s what you’re doing…

      The overall findings was Biden knowingly committed crimes.

      find one sentence in it that spins it n

      That’s what you’re doing.

      You latched on “charges not recommended” and are ignoring the rest of the sentence that says the only reason is because due to Biden’s age and confusion, it’s unlikely he’d be found guilty as people would be sympathetic.

      You’re not even focusing on a single sentence…

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        “The only reason to hide the tapes, is they make Biden look bad. If he had his shit together, they’d be trying to release them to show people the report was biased.”

        But they already released the transcripts. They are just refusing to release the audio. There isn’t new information to be gained. Just an opportunity for Republicans to splice and dice the audio for partisan purposes.

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          It is, and it’s a god damn world salad…

          https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/joe-biden/full-text-robert-hur-biden-classified-documents-interview-pdf-rcna142956

          At one point he talks about how NASA can cure cancer with protons…

          Americans don’t like to read, I’m not sure how an American hasn’t noticed that.

          But all the shit we (rightfully) give trump shit about with his speaking ability and making up random shit is stuff Biden does too.

          A clip of him talking about how NASA has a cure for cancer is going to hurt him.

          And it does make sense he wouldn’t want that released.

          But be better than republicans. Hold your “team” to higher standards than just the letter by someone’s name.

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            I don’t think Biden having dementia and spewing nonsense is news to anyone. Yes it hurts him and will draw more attention in audio than in text, which is one of the reasons they aren’t releasing it.

            “But be better than republicans. Hold your “team” to higher standards than just the letter by someone’s name.”

            No. Fuck that. We tried that and ended up with a conservative majority on SCOTUS. Don’t do anything to give Republicans or Trump an advantage. I’m just as disappointed as anyone that Biden is the best candidate the Dems can produce, and that his campaign slogan is effectively “better than Trump”. But I don’t agree with making it easier for Republicans to hurt your campaign just for the sake of taking the moral high ground. Save that conversation for when your opponent isn’t a literal fascist. Make the Republicans work for it. If the transcript doesn’t titillate your Fox News braindead audience then too bad.

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              . Fuck that. We tried that and ended up with a conservative majority on SCOTUS

              Refusing to fight for Obama’s SC pick so that it could be used to get people to vote for a candidate disliked by most people from either party is not “having standards”.

              It’s wild to hear someone even suggest that’s what happened…

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                Refusing to fight for Obama’s SC pick so that it could be used to get people to vote for a candidate disliked by most people from either party is not “having standards”.

                If this is what you think happened in 2016 after Senate Republicans openly admit that they blocked Obama’s SC pick, then I hope nobody is listening to you because you’ve lost all credibility. They even said that they would do the same thing to a Republican president, but then they moved faster than I’ve ever seen Congress move to install a new Justice just a few weeks before the 2020 election. There’s video of Lindsey Graham telling people to use his words against him if they behaved differently with roles reversed, and he behaved differently, and then that interview video went viral right before the election. There’s no excuse for not knowing what happened, so I have to assume that you’re just arguing in bad faith, trying to sow division.

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                  Between the insults, you said I don’t know what happened, then said what happened was the same thing I said?

                  Is it just because I pointed out Dems didn’t fight or try anything to get Obama his pick?

                  Or that the reason they didn’t was in an attempt to motivate voters to turn out for someone they don’t like?

                  I just don’t see anywhere else we disagree, but if you keep the insults up I’m probably just going to block you and be done with this.

                  If you want a political group ok with juvenile insults, republicans are on the other side of the aisle.

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                    Senate majority leader McConnell refused to even bring it to a vote. And laughed about it. How do you propose that they should’ve fought that?

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        But the transcripts show that the “due to age and confusion” was a mischaracterization by Hur. It’s like when Barr declared the Mueller report exonerated trump.

        There are a lot of podcasts that break it down if you’re not interested in looking at the transcripts yourself.

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          There are a lot of podcasts that break it down if you’re not interested in looking at the transcripts yourself.

          Literally just posted it and I’ve read it…

          Most people aren’t politically active to be on a sub about it, they’re not going to read it.

          Like, I run into this all the time, Biden supporters just don’t seem to understand how disengaged people are with Biden as president.

          If the I tervirw makes him look good like you claim, what’s wrong with releasing it so people can hear the good bits?

          Why care if Republicans are going to talk shit if they’re already talking shit and won’t stop for any reason?

          The optics of Biden hiding it are worse