A progressive who stays home on Election Day — or backs Robert F. Kennedy Jr., Cornel West, or No Labels — is voting for Donald Trump.

"Progressives should not make the same mistake that Ernst Thälmann made in 1932. The leader of the German Communist Party, Thälmann saw mainstream liberals as his enemies, and so the center and left never joined forces against the Nazis. Thälmann famously said that ‘some Nazi trees must not be allowed to overshadow a forest’ of social democrats, whom he sneeringly called ‘social fascists.’

After Adolf Hitler gained power in 1933, Thälmann was arrested. He was shot on Hitler’s orders in Buchenwald concentration camp in 1944."

  • bloodfart@lemmy.ml
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    2 months ago

    Do you think winning the electoral college is the only effect that a third party vote has?

    Especially for a party like PSL that runs down ticket candidates there’s much more than winning the ec.

    • TachyonTele@lemm.ee
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      2 months ago

      The winner wins the election and becomes the President and Vice President. That is what happens, not whatever your fantasy makes up.

        • TachyonTele@lemm.ee
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          2 months ago

          No. Voter turn out is how many people are voting. What else do did you think it is?

          This election, sense you don’t seem to understand it somehow, is for the president who will be in charge of our country for at least the next four years. As well as for the office holders downvote.

          Not voting for one of the only two people that are able to win is throwing your vote away and giving Trump the edge. Any vote that is not for Harris gives Trump an easier time to win.

          If you don’t care which person gets elected, then that’s fine. But if Trump gets elected and you don’t like it, you only have yourself to blame.

          • bloodfart@lemmy.ml
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            2 months ago

            Wait how is it throwing my vote away? The ballot is tallied for my preferred party. The ballot doesn’t give trump an edge because it isn’t cast for trump.

            By your logic that same third party ballot gives Harris an edge and the two edges combine and cancel out. Or explode. Or something.

            How am I to blame for trumps ostensible victory when I don’t vote for him? Are all voters to blame just like me? Are democratic strategists who author Harris’ rightward move to blame? Is Harris herself to blame in the case of a trump victory?

            • TachyonTele@lemm.ee
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              2 months ago

              Multiple people have explained all of it to you in this post and others. You are refusing to listen. I’m done with you, I’m sorry but you’re either extremely naive or you’re willfully being an idiot. Either way you’re annoying to talk to.

              • bloodfart@lemmy.ml
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                2 months ago

                if you think you have a coherent explanation how third party is throwing ones vote away i’ll ilsten.

                it seems like most people rely on “your party can’t win” and dont engage with how there are effects outside winning involved with american elections. i also get a lot of accusations of helping trump win that break down under the slightest questioning.