I cringe every time I hear another guy refer to women like this

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    counterpoint:

    man and men, just like woman and women sound the same when speaking

    male and males, female and females is clearer

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        I’m sorry, but I did the thing where I write a comment and then delete it because I assume no one cares about my opinion

        since you replied though, I should make it clear what I said to give context

        I said that man and men, as well as woman and women, sound the same when speaking. male and males, female and females, make a clearer distinction

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          You pronounce the words man and men the same way? And this is also the case for woman and women?

          Am I understanding you correctly?

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            I discovered through this thread that women is pronounced as wimen

            the english language is fucked

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            Ugh, this conversation has reminded me of how much I hate that woman is pronounce wo-men and women is pronounced like wimmen.

            Why can’t we just spell words as they are pronounced or pronounce words as they are spelled? It would make the language much easier to learn for future generations

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              Because English is a Germanic language that has half of it’s vocabulary as borrowed words from a Romance language (French) that then got chewed up and mangled for a few centuries.

              Not like Gaelic, which has to own the fact that most of it’s words are pronounced in the least sensible way one might think that series of letters is said.

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      how do you pronounce man/men/woman/women? man and men might be confusable but woman and women are very different pronunciations

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        It probably depends on slight differences in regional dialect. Where I am from I would say woman and women are often pronounced pretty similarly, while man and men are easier to tell apart.

        In my region, woman is often pronounced with an ‘uh’ sound, like womuhn. It’s pretty easy to confuse with women. I have noticed that people in my area will sometimes vary up the ‘wo’ part of women and woman depending on which one they are using. So women becomes ‘wimen’, and woman becomes ‘wumuhn’.

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      counterpoints:

      This would only hold up if the person is using male/female and not man/female

      And assuming this still holds up, why not go with male/woman? The type of people to use this shouldn’t be bothered, i mean thry throw the term “alpha male” all the time

      Oh wait, i think the solution is to just use man/woman unless you’re in a very biological discussion

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      Isn’t it /mæn/ and /mɛn/, /ˈwʊm ən/ and /ˈwɪm ɪn/? Can be a bit hard to differenciate in the first case, but the second pair is very different.