In the latest round of the dispute between Elon Musk and Brazil’s top court, a senior judge has accused X of a “willful, illegal and persistent” effort to circumvent a court-ordered block – and imposed a fine of R$5m ($921,676) for each day the social network remains online.

The social media platform formerly known as Twitter, which has been banned by court order since 30 August, on Wednesday became accessible to many users in Brazil after an update that used cloud services offered by third parties, such as Cloudflare, Fastly and Edgeuno.

This allowed some Brazilian users to access X without the need for a VPN – which is also prohibited in the country.

Late on Wednesday, X described its reappearance in Brazil as an “inadvertent and temporary service restoration to Brazilian users”.

But the influential supreme court justice Alexandre de Moraes – who ordered the original ban as part of an attempt to crack down on anti-democratic, far-right voices – on Thursday described the move as a deliberate attempt “to circumvent the court’s blocking order”.

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      Brazil is not banning the Internet.

      Brazil is revoking the permission of a company to do business in Brazil because it refuses to follow Brazilian law and is openly defying a court order.

      God, you techno-feudalists are fucking weird.

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        You are absolutely right. Brazil is not banning the internet. Reading comprehension is not your strong suit.

        Also, if the only way you can feel like you are “winning” a discussion is by changing what other people say, then you simply are not winning at all. You are writing fan fiction about yourself to try to feel clever. It backfired.

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          Love how you made it personal when someone responded rationally to you. If you can’t take that, you probably should not engage with other humans.

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            Yeah, commenting on someone’s comment they made about my comment isn’t personal. It’s interesting how you know you dislike what I said but can’t come up with anything to actually say about it. Maybe you should take that as an indication that you don’t actually know why you parrot the things you do.

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      Musk was all to happy to comply with Turkey and India to remove accounts critical of their right wing governments. His justification at the time? He has to comply with the laws of the country twitter operates in.

      So odd that it he opts not do the above when its far right accounts attacking the left wing government of Brazil.

      It’s almost like Musk isn’t doing this for free speech reasons at all and is just selectively censoring people.

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      That has nothing to do with what’s happening. Twitter can’t be fucked to appoint a legal team to comply with Brazilian law, so they don’t get to operate there. Simple as.

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        Your point about making stuff up aside… yes, 100%. Who the Hell wouldn’t support a leola root ban, other than Neelix‽

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        It is really great that you can make stuff up. Hypothetical questions have been useful for as long as people have discussed things. I’m sorry that this hypothetical question offended you so much, but it is entirely different than “making stuff up”.

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        Hypothetical. Look it up. It is commonly used in discussions. Don’t let new words scare you.

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            Hypotheticals are not bad. Thought expirements are not bad. Repeating things you hear from people just because they tell you to, that’s bad.

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              Hypotheticals and thought expirements can be used for valid purposes. But when you are using them to divert a conversation for the purposes of your personal agenda. To give a false impression of something that didn’t happen. Then it becomes whataboutism. And given that you are not contributing anything to the discussion beyond whataboutism and insults. And being called out for it. I’d say you can stop trolling now. You’re not convincing anybody.

              And no that is not an echo chamber. That is people telling you what you are doing is wrong.

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                Yeah, except I have no agenda. I just find it interesting that people who act like a disgusting regime is somehow doing the lords work because they are shutting down millions of people from having discussions because people don’t like musks’ childish attitude. It’s just that it is hip to see who can hate musk the most. X is a popular way to immediately get what you want out to millions of people. Some governments don’t want people to openly discuss things, and siding with stopping discussion is disgusting.

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                  Except that is not what has happened here. X has refused to follow Brazilian law. And was given ample opportunity to remedy the situation. They refused.

                  There are plenty of other fora on the Internet. Banning Twitter will not stop discussion.

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                    It must be nice to have such an innocent view of the world. When powerful people stop average people from having conversations, it is not a good thing. It doesn’t matter how much the internet tells you socialism and dictatorships are good, stopping discussion is bad.

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              I’m not sure what you think you’re getting out of this, but it really just feels sad.

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                It helps all of us if there are fewer echo chambers. I know, I know, to you it’s not an echo chamber, but sadly that’s exactly what it is when anyone who disagrees with the majority is ridiculed and their points are ignored. I understand the comfort of just agreeing with the majority to try to feel like you are always right, but it’s simply not real.

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                  You just keep throwing accusations. It’s unusual. It screams insecurity on your part and a need to feel powerful by being better than others. Real power comes from within, not from competition