“Jill Stein is a useful idiot for Russia. After parroting Kremlin talking points and being propped up by bad actors in 2016 she’s at it again,” DNC spokesman Matt Corridoni said in a statement to The Bulwark. “Jill Stein won’t become president, but her spoiler candidacy—that both the GOP and Putin have previously shown interest in—can help decide who wins. A vote for Stein is a vote for Trump.”
No, not a threat, the winner will be either Harris or Trump, but they could keep Harris from winning in key swing states.
With that the winner will be AIPAC and Netanyahu. People voting third party does not threaten the outcome of one of the established party as a whole, but it threatens the idea that doing what AIPAC wants is always good for a politician and going against it is always bad.
If too many voters decide to go against Democrats now because they are disgusted by the Democrats support for the many heinous atrocities committed by the Netanyahu government, it would force the Democrats to reevaluate that position and force AIPAC influence out, to regain credibility with the people.
And what do you think happens to Palestine in the meantime for (at least) four years of Donald Trump?
None of that shit will matter by the time Democrats would even have another opportunity to possibly change course.
I wish that would happen, but if Democrats lost this cycle, do you believe they would immediately link back to this particular issue?
I fear that the United States would find itself consumed in pressing domestic issues if Harris were to lose. Over the past several years we’ve already been witnessing the rapid spread of disinformation, a poorly-handled pandemic, increasing racism, xenophobia, and violence, as well as women suffering from lack of reproductive care. As much as I’d hope that a democratic loss led to a disconnect from AIPAC, I imagine a presidential loss at this time wouldn’t change that. Rather, it could force relevant local issues to overshadow issues of foreign influence (which, if history tells us anything, certainly wouldn’t decrease if Trump returned to power.)
Not our problem, we are not democrats. If Democrats lose it’s their own doing for continuing to shift their party to the right.
If the Democrats lose, everything you want and love will be destroyed. Those are the stakes.
That’s hyperbole
Have you read Project 2025? Or at least a summary?
I was aware of it and aware of its contents way before it started getting talked about on social media. It has existed for decades under various names, and it’s policies have often been bipartisan when they come for a vote. NAFTA was never presented as killing our jobs, shopping them overseas to increase profits. It was sold to us as the greatest thing ever to make the country stronger.
Like NAFTA and other proposals by the Heritage Foundation they are always presented by a republican to get public opposition out of the way. So when it’s resented again by a Democrat it’s embraced as progress.
Not our problem, we are not democrats. If Democrats lose it’s their own doing for continuing to shift their party to the right.