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    Before 1951, Tibet was a slave-based theocracy. Calling the change away from that system a genocide is like calling Reconstruction genocide.

    Tibetans have autonomy and teach their language in schools. If you want to see what an ongoing cultural genocide looks like, look no further than Hawaii.

    Back in the 50s, the US trained a bunch of the former ruling caste to stage a popular revolt, and then air-dropped them in Tibet with a bunch of nazi K98s they’d secretly obtained under the cover of making a movie, it’s actually a really interesting story. Anyway, turns out slavery isn’t very popular among the former slaves.

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      You sound just like the Republicans that say we shouldn’t support Ukraine because it’s a failed state. There’s no justification for genocide.

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        There’s no genocide. The Tibetan people still have their languages and cultures, and as a protected ethnic group, they have special political privileges and were exempt from the 1 child policy.

        They were simply freed of the caste system and various other social injustices. The reason this is framed as a genocide to you is that the US (and the Lamas who fled) have a vested interest in restoring the old order.

        The reason we shouldn’t support Ukraine is that every bomb we send is a bad day for someone, statistically mostly civilians. Neither you, nor the republicans give a shit about the people living in Ukraine; Democrats want to fight Russia to the last drop of Ukrainian blood, and Republicans don’t even think their lives are worth that much.

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          The reason we shouldn’t support Ukraine is that every bomb we send is a bad day for someone, statistically mostly civilians.

          Im sure Russia would take over peacefully … like in bucha.

          Maybe we should allow the Ukrainian people to choose whether to fight or capitulate.

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            Zelenskyy was elected on a peace platform, was unable to keep the Right Sector from continuing the civil war and their representatives from passing inflammatory legislation, and suspended elections after the war started.

            We cannot reasonably say the Ukrainian people had any choice in the matter.

            But if the Ukrainian people did want that, Ukraine would not be asking other countries to extradite draft dodgers.

            But even if a majority of Ukrainians wanted that, I do not care what someone willing to sacrifice their own countrymen wants for their countrymen.