As governor he got his state signed on to the national popular vote interstate compact

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    Guess you all are fine with having everything decided by a few states. I for one am not willing to end up with rle by the Mob.

    Without the E.C., no presidential candidate will go to any Midwest state, southeast or the southwest. Politics will not matter in DC for any state past the coasts.

    The system we have was designed so that instead of one group taking over we have to find common ground. Checks and Balances are important for keeping it in the middle ground. Just because it may help in one way, doesn’t mean it can be used against the Democrats in the future.

    I’m as far left as they come, but I don’t think gutting the system for short term gains will help. We should increase the House due to thensize, but I think we should go back to a senate chosen by the state and not having senate elections. It has so far turned the senate into another popularity body instead of people being able to pass laws without regard of electioneering.

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      The purpose of the EC is to undermine the popular vote and to make sure we are ruled by a few states. The reason it exists is because slave states wouldn’t join the union without a method to ensure they could control the president and protect the institution of slavery. The National Popular Vote Interstate Compact is just a rule that (when enough states sign on to make up the majority) their electoral college votes go to whichever candidate won the most votes, not how much dirt is controlled by states who voted for a candidate.

      The fact that more people live in some areas should not mean their votes are worth less, like is the case for the EC. Why should someone in the Midwest be more valuable as a citizen than someone in, for example, California? Please don’t respond if you can’t answer that question.

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      Could it be that you are a Stalinist or something similar and have a deep hatred for democracy? Cause no electoral collage is more democratic and having senat elections is also more democratic then having them indirectly elected by the state legislators.

      Obviously this changes the electoral landscape a lot, as presidental candidates no longer just have to care about voters in a few states, but the entire country. Again making it more democratic. It would also give the Democrats an advantage, but not an insane one. It however does give Republican voters in blue states and Democrat voters in red states a voice as well, instead of being ignored.

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        Yes Stalin famously implemented an electoral college.

        The only reasonable explanation for an American to support the EC is claim it’s democratic is him being a Stalinist or a Russian sock puppet.

        Couldn’t be an American internalizing USA’s own jingoistic propaganda about how it is the most democratic and free state etc.

        Always somebody else’s fault.

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          Anybody who claims to be as far left as they come, tends to be not very fed up on USA propaganda. They also do not tend to be Russian stock puppets.