• sorval_the_eeter@lemmy.world
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    18 hours ago

    How many people was Israel holding prisoner indefinitely and without charge or access to any representation? I’ll answer that for you, a bit over 12000.

    How many of those killed on Oct 7 were killed by Israeli forces?

    How many innocents have been raped or murdered in isralei custody?

    How many dead journalists? Doctors? Aid workers? How many utilities workers (6 more mudered yesterday). Say what you want, each and every one of those deaths is a war crime.

    How many attacks on the UN and UN workers?

    Israel has far far dirtier hands than anyone else so I dont think you get to self righteously open with, “How many of these people do you think would be dead if Hamas hadn’t kidnapped them?”.

    Ridiculous nonsense.

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      8 hours ago

      Those are all valid points, most of which I can agree with. But that doesn’t mean that Hamas was helping us build a better world when they went on their killing and kidnapping spree. They wanted to restart the hostilities and that’s not some noble goal that should make us lie about what they did or act like they’re not responsible for the deaths of those they took.

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        5 hours ago

        agreed, but you put people in a murderous pressure cooker and keep turning up the heat and it’ll expode. Thats part of the burden of being in charge. It speaks to motive and I asribe a lot of the blame to Israel for what happened on Oct 7. You dont oppress people to that level for 80 years and then act surprised when they lose their minds over it.