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      4 days ago

      80% Russian campaign and 20% reaction to being lectured constantly by people who will forget that progressive votes are needed to beat Republicans when it comes time to pick a new candidate.

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        I would agree. Its like 80% russian disinfo or israeli settlers (I would love to see the IPs here) and like 20% people who feel icky about voting for a dem and are doing mental gymnastics.

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          We need to make the case that Kamala is better than Trump for Palestine, and do it without demonizing those on the fence. They need to understand that their voices will continue to be heard when the election is over, and a whole lot of the rhetoric being aimed at them says just the opposite, or at least implies it. “Let’s elect Kamala so we can continue to fight for Palestine” instead of “Palestine has to take a back seat to all these other issues.”

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            I will say this. Actual leftists get arrested for protests so like the real people actually fighting for people’s rights know that we’ll be sacrificing less people to stupid shit if Kamala is elected. There is no argument that can be made to armchair leftists and russian trolls though. They have no stake in the outcome because they either have enough privelege to sit it out or they are bad faith.

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        Progressive votes are already counted out. We know there will always be smug pseudo-intellectual “leftists” that will hold their vote as a threat to democracy if the don’t get their way with [current thing]. You do this every election year.

        The problem is, you think people are going to give in to your demands when there is SO much more at stake than a war in a country you people couldn’t even locate on a map a year ago.

        So no, you all can keep your votes. It’s too late to reason with trolls. The rest of us will be happy enough to not have to deal with you once you all disappear November 5th.

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          Typical. You don’t even know the difference between a progressive and a tankie.

          war in a country you people couldn’t even locate on a map a year ago.

          Project much?