• nossaquesapao@lemmy.eco.br
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    9 months ago

    I have a theory about small phones:

    I see so many people asking for smaller phones, and, at the same time, the sales aren’t very good when companies give it a try. How can both be true?

    I believe (from my anedoctal observations) that small phone users tend to be people who don’t want to replace their phones just for the sake of getting a newer one, and use their devices for several years, resulting in fewer sales than expected.

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      8 months ago

      I think you may be on to something. I keep hearing podcast ads for a t-mobile phone upgrade service that brags about offering 2 year upgrades, which sounds bizarre to me because I want my phones to last at least 3 years.

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      9 months ago

      You see so many people asking for smaller phones in the forums and places you frequent.

      They do not necessarily represent the views of the common public. I personally could do with a slightly smaller phone because the compact size allows for easier holding with single hands. But, sadly, I have not seen folks around me deciding which phone to buy based on their screen size. Neither is that a priority for them. Simply put, our Venn diagrams do not fully overlap.

      • nossaquesapao@lemmy.eco.br
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        9 months ago

        I see a lot of people around me asking for smaller phones, from my family to work and friends. Perhaps it’s something cultural, I don’t know.

        But I’m well aware that our perception can trick us in so many ways, and can’t speak for itself. I would love to see atual data on phone size preferences around the world.

        Still, I doubt that there aren’t enough people wanting smaller phones to sustain a market niche.

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          9 months ago

          True, geographic diversity is a thing. Smaller phones like iPhone mini or Zenfone didn’t caught up in the Indian market. But, should demand exist for them, atleast some companies ought to be making them in some parts of the world. Sadly, that doesn’t seem to be happening and that presents one less choice to the customer.

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      9 months ago

      I prefer smaller phones but none of them have the specs I want. I’m never looking for bleeding edge flagships either. I just want a good enough camera, good enough screen, goddamn micro SD slot damn it, and flat glass edges with a bit of a bezel so I can put a case and tempered glass on. And whatever the maker needs to make available for custom roms to be possible because I’m damn well going to keep using it after official updates end.

      They wouldn’t even need to make a new model as frequently, maybe minor revisions to replace no longer available components. USB port update shouldn’t be needed for a good chunk of time since c seems pretty great. There’s probably a shitload of tooling and supply chain issues to work out even ignoring the likely toxic workplace politics though.

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      8 months ago

      You meet them online, but they’re a vocal minority. Especially when a smaller phone means a smaller battery and worse camera system, two of the consistently top priorities for consumers.

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        8 months ago

        Could be a larger demographic thing. Tech enthusiasts tend to have lots of devices(tablets, portable computers, etc.), so they tend to like the smaller form factor phones since they can always use their tablet/laptop when the small phone is limiting. Those people are also the ones you see in these kinds of online communities. For a lot of other people though, they’re getting the big phone and then not having a personal tablet/portable computer at all. Those aren’t the kind of people that hang out online and talk about tech stuff though.

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      8 months ago

      I don’t want smaller phones, I’m just having a hard time growing my hands and pockets to keep up.

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    8 months ago

    I just want phones that are shorter. They keep getting longer, which means more risk of breaking, and means the keyboard is unusable in landscape since it blocks the textfield.

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    8 months ago

    What irks me about the larger phones is that there is so much wasted screen real estate. The phone doubled in size, but can only show me half the number of items on my shopping list?

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      8 months ago

      That sounds more like an iPhone problem than a large phone problem. You have complete control over both text size and display scaling in Android.

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    9 months ago

    People have been saying this for the last 5 years and will continue saying this for the next 5 years. They make less smaller phones cuz people don’t buy them

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    9 months ago

    There was a time where 7" was a damn tablet (looking at you, my old pal nexus 7)

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    8 months ago

    Still using an S10e, & getting around 7-8 hrs SOT, great phone, perfect size, good cameras & screen, with the bonus of SD card support & a headphone jack…

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    8 months ago

    Agreed.

    Manufacturers seem to think that we all need a massive screen to watch films and play games on.

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      8 months ago

      man I just miss being able to type and reach all corners of the screen with one hand without having to be a contortionist or accidentally clicking on the one-handed keyboard that I never actually use because I’ve already resigned to always using two hands anyways

      I’ve since realized that you can turn off the one handed keyboard completely but the fact that it has to exist at all still annoys me

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        8 months ago

        It’s not the manufacturers fault that your and my hand sizes haven’t kept up with demand. /s

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    9 months ago

    Currently in the process of switching to a degoogled OnePlus 5 which is only taking a long time because I’m having to find the right combo of system apps and replacements for googles apps which I’ve all but done.

    Seriously if you’re trying to make a google free phone try LineageOS microG. It’s a spin on Lineage that gives you replacements for a lot of core apps like a location provider, and a load of other stuff you wouldn’t realise wasn’t in pure android.

    Now all I need is a new battery and I have a FOSS( bar firmware, blobs, and magic earth, because no FOSS map app works well in the UK for me) phone.

    But honesty I love this phone it’s just the right size and it still has touch buttons for home, back, and recent apps instead of on screen ones( which I kinda hate). Paired with dual cameras and a gorgeous 1080p OLED display.

    And you want to know the best part?

    It only cost me £50!

    Seriously if you’re sick of modern phones and yern for the good old days this is a pretty great middle ground.

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      8 months ago

      Have you tried Organic Maps?

      It’s been awesome for me and it’s saved me in the mountains by finding gas stations without service.

      Close to a no frills Google Maps experience.

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        8 months ago

        I did and unfortunately until they have a better database of the UK I’m stuck with magic maps. But I hope one day I can switch

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    9 months ago

    Haven’t thought of small phones in a while, unless you look into dumb phones, like Nokia 3310 reboot.

    Great little phone, but does not have smart features that smart phones have.

    Nice to see the sizes being compared, I was not expecting it, but wow have phone become huge.

    I wonder if Pine64 or similar would create a small phone, they have launched phones before…