• Prunebutt@feddit.de
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    I hate how lemmy is starting to get flooded with generative AI pics. It’s the “lol, so random!”-meme of the current age, but with even less artistic/comedic value.

    Edit: typo

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      You say that because you are old. Next you will also say something like “the important think is to be young in the heart/head”.

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          I don’t think that’s true. It’s just another tool. Using it to get a good result takes more skill, practice, and patience than using it to get an okay result.

          That’s not to say it is equivalent in terms of skill required to oil paint, for example. But it really does stink of being obstinately against change for no reason other than it being change.

          I imagine similar complaints were made when photoshop first started to rise in popularity and use.

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            @Risk @Prunebutt, the risk is when we lose our own capabilities and intelligence, becoming dependent on AI. This has already happened with previous technologies. Who still has the handwriting of our grandparents with the introduction of the keyboard and word processors? Who can still do simple sums mentally for purchases at the supermarket, without using a calculator? With the introduction of smartphones, our lives have become completely dependent on these gossips in practically every aspect, social as well as professional.
            Seeing this evolution, I always think of the humans in the movie Wall-e as the end result of this path. It is not that AI is going to fight and subjugate humanity, it does not need to do so, since we subordinate ourselves to it voluntarily, even today we would be unable to survive a week without our technology.
            It happens when we start using tools, not for what they are, but as crutches for our own inability and intelligence, instead of using them for our own development.

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              I think this is quite a hyperbolic analysis.

              Yeah, good quality handwriting is less prevalent now than it has been in the past - but that’s not because of a loss of artistry, but because that mode of written communication is less important. But there are still plenty of calligraphy artists out there, and are perhaps more highly prized now than they were before.

              Human creativity doesn’t stop, we just progress to new tools when the previous ones can be automated. And yet, even then, we still have people that go back to use the old tools for the simple joy of using them.

              Don’t mistake delegation for subordination.

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                @Risk, i don’t confuse it,but an excess of delegacion IS at the end subordination. The calligraphy is only one example of a general tendency.
                Of course there are people who continue to practice it and are sought after, precisely because there are few of them. But the vast majority do not have a writing that can be defined as such and many can no longer do so without using a spell checker, moving to a poor general vocabulary.
                Human beings are very comfortable having others do their work and this with new technologies is becoming more pronounced, even with AI that turns on the lights or TV on command, because the 3 steps to the switch is too much effort.

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                  But by delegating stuff we free up our time for other things.

                  If you’re making an argument that humans are tending towards being less creative, then I’d need to see some evidence to support that assertion. Because from my perspective we get more creative the more free time we have.

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            Stop being so dramatic and conspiratorial. The pushback is because it sucks. AI can’t be genuinely creative.

            • Risk@feddit.uk
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              Conspiratorial? What?

              Large Language Models cannot be genuinely creative; I agree. The people using them can. Why is that disagreeable?