• Tinidril@midwest.social
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      Biden undermined democracy by preventing a proper primary from taking place. The voters never got to nominate a candidate, and the establishment thrust a candidate on them that had already been rejected in a previous primary. That’s the establishment’s fault, and Biden if the face of the Democratic establishment.

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      Is it? He single handedly tanked the opportunity to find a strong Democrat candidate through a primary. After being forced out he repeatedly made comments that saddled Harris with his baggage.

      He’s not 100% to blame, but no one is. He is probably about 30-40% of the problem though.

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        I think the voters who voted for Trump are probably at least 90% to blame for Trump being elected by voters into office?

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          Sure, but Biden/Harris hemmorrhaged about 15,000,000 voters between 2020 and 2024 due to lacking messaging that appealed to the electorate. Turns out that “this guy is a fascist but also we want to do bipartisanship with his party” doesn’t really appeal to people.

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        Easily 60%

        Biden is trying to skate on his “Oh I’m an old grandpa looking figure, look at my creepy-ass smile.”

        As though people will forget how his actions (and inactions) curated the requirements for our current scenario. Including giving Harris a nearly impossible task, which she also managed to flub as hard as possible while lighting a BILLION dollars on fire.

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          I’d hesitate to give him that much blame, as Harris could have ran a campaign that more aggressively separated herself from the administration, or one that campaigned for things instead of against Trump. She deserves an equal or greater amount of the blame.

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      If you don’t see the direct connection between how Biden has governed and how that set up Trump to win, I don’t know that you can be helped.

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        what about muslims, black or even poor white people ? are they worth engaging to you ?

        or anyone else not sipping wine while philosophical-jerking off the way of cronies like pelosi, biden & harris.