On the part of labor. No matter how causally efficacious capital is. It can never be de facto responsible for anything because responsibility is imputed through the tools back to the workers using them.
Sure, but labor consists of the de facto responsible actions of persons while capital is a dead tool. When thinking about assigning legal responsibility for the positive and negative results of an action, we only look at the de facto responsible party and lay the legal responsibility for the whole result on them. For example, if a crime is committed with a gun, the gun isn’t held liable. Inanimate objects conduct responsibility back to the persons using them and cannot be responsible
The workers built the means, they just never owned them.
Let me guess, you think Steve Jobs made the iPhone because he pulled it out of his pocket on a stage and took the credit of engineers standing on the shoulders of publically funded basic research? Steve jobs couldn’t engineer his way out of a wet paper bag, and that is well documented.
Remember when bill gates bought dos and used his moms connections to sell it IBM?
Remember when apple was given their entire gui by xerox?
Remember when xerox exects threw what would be the modern “PC” in the trash because they are only good at collecting money and wouldn’t know revolutionary technology if their own R&D made it?
I think Steve Jobs made the iphone by coordinating and funding a team of engineers to develop and produce the phone, then marketed it using his own name for brand recognition.
He could not have done it without those engineers and workers, and they would not have made the phone without Jobs.
“Seize the means of production” is a communist’s rallying cry because they know that they can’t build anything on their own
Who do you think built the means of production in the first place? I’ve never seen a rich guy in a suit laying down bricks all day to build a factory.
It was a group effort
Yeah, a group effort, lol
The laborers planned and built the stuff, and the owners took the profits. Good job team!
On the part of labor. No matter how causally efficacious capital is. It can never be de facto responsible for anything because responsibility is imputed through the tools back to the workers using them.
Which group?
Capital and labor, both are intertwined and cannot exist without the other
Sure, but labor consists of the de facto responsible actions of persons while capital is a dead tool. When thinking about assigning legal responsibility for the positive and negative results of an action, we only look at the de facto responsible party and lay the legal responsibility for the whole result on them. For example, if a crime is committed with a gun, the gun isn’t held liable. Inanimate objects conduct responsibility back to the persons using them and cannot be responsible
The workers built the means, they just never owned them.
Let me guess, you think Steve Jobs made the iPhone because he pulled it out of his pocket on a stage and took the credit of engineers standing on the shoulders of publically funded basic research? Steve jobs couldn’t engineer his way out of a wet paper bag, and that is well documented.
Remember when bill gates bought dos and used his moms connections to sell it IBM?
Remember when apple was given their entire gui by xerox?
Remember when xerox exects threw what would be the modern “PC” in the trash because they are only good at collecting money and wouldn’t know revolutionary technology if their own R&D made it?
I think Steve Jobs made the iphone by coordinating and funding a team of engineers to develop and produce the phone, then marketed it using his own name for brand recognition.
He could not have done it without those engineers and workers, and they would not have made the phone without Jobs.
used so many words to tell us that you’re an ignoramus