The two-year war in northern Ethiopia resulted in approximately 100,200 deaths before an African Union-brokered ceasefire was reached in November 2021, a new report reveals. In comparison, the Ukraine-Russia war that began in February led to 81,500 deaths, the same source added.

  • ☭ Blursty ☭@lemmygrad.ml
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    The USSR lost 25 million lives in defeating the Nazis.

    Molotov-Ribbentrop is just some western cope you’ve been fed. Everyone made these agreements.

    You can learn more about it here.

    But anyway, what some other states did nearly a hundred years ago has no bearing on today’s. There’s different motivations and actors involved for different reasons.

    Russia has no interest in invading anywhere else. Remember Russia spent 8 years trying to negotiate peace with the west who had no interest in peace? (See Hollande and Merkel’s admissions). Even after the invasion Russia was still offering peace and their demand was independence for the breakaways, not annexation. Boris Johnson ordered Ukraine to reject the offer.

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      Of course the USSR lost millions fighting the nazis by the end of the WWII, I know and I’m not negating that, what I’m pointing out it that Stalin did the same as Hitler at the start of the war: invade Poland and tried to invade Finland (two points you and your friends at Lemmygrad carefully avoided to mention).

      And sorry to say, but, what other states did 100 years ago is totally relevant. My grandparents suffered the Spanish civil war, my parents were raised in a dictatorship, I live now in Norway, another country invaded by nazis, I’ve friends from Finland who really hate Russians because what they did not so long ago. I’ve friends from Poland, Latvia, Lithuania, Ukraine. Do you want to hear what all agree on? Russian are crazy dangerous people (not the street people, but their leaders).

      I despise any imperialistic, paranoid egomaniac where their ideals are more important than human lives. Hitler, Stalin, Putin, Trump, all are the same bullshit and as dangerous as the others. Any country trying to invade another is bad, no matter what.

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        If you read the communications between Molotov and Ribbentrop, its clear the USSR didn’t want to occupy their part of Poland (which btw were soviet lands stolen by Poland during the Civil War), but keep a rump Polish state there as a buffer state. However, what happened is the polish government escaped to Romania, and from there to the UK. The problem is that Romania was neutral, and thus, it couldn’t allow the polish government, which was at war with Nazi Germany, to stay or pass through their country without them declaring war on Germany too. So the only way they could let the poles in their country was by interning them, meaning that they weren’t a government anymore. Thus, legally speaking, the Polish State had ceased to exist. And since the Secret Protocol of the Molotov Ribbentrop Pact referred to Poland as “the Polish State”, not “the Polish lands”, this part of the pact was now invalid. And so the USSR had no choice but to occupy eastern Poland, since the alternative was to just let Nazi Germany occupy it and march right up to the Soviet border, which they could legally do without breaking the pact.nnThe whole thing was a legal mess, caused by the polish government cowardly fleeing and leaving their troops and people behind. If you want to read more on this I recommend the book “Blood Lies” by Grover Furr, which debunks many anti-Stalin myths including the Molotov Ribbentrop Pact.

        And sorry to say, but, what other states did 100 years ago is totally relevant.

        No I’m sorry, it’s totally irrelevant. I have friends all over the world who hate the USA and its war in Ukraine. You takes on Russian people being crazy are immature and bigoted.

        I despise any imperialistic, paranoid egomaniac where their ideals are more important than human lives. Hitler, Stalin, Putin, Trump, all are the same bullshit and as dangerous as the others. Any country trying to invade another is bad, no matter what.

        Not a very nuanced take. I note that you don’t have any American presidents in there or even, more relevantly to you, Stoltenberg.

        This is US/NATO’s war. They overthrew Ukraine’s democracy and destroyed the country to try to “weaken Russia”. They failed and Ukraine paid the price.