Elop was a Microsoft employee who moved to Nokia to become their CEO.
Elop scrapped Meego as well as the rapidly-improving and highly promising Symbian OS that Nokia had, killed internal projects that used Android, and went all in on Windows Phone 7, a completely unproven platform that just happened to be from his ex employer.
After the market really didn’t like that, Microsoft was able to buy Nokia for a bargain price (€5.4bn), and Elop was given a €18.8m bonus.
Curiosly, that bonus works out as €1 million for every €1 billion that was wiped off Nokia’s market cap during his time as CEO. But I’m sure that’s just a coincidence…
When he was asked for the good of the company to take a smaller bonus, Elop said that he “couldn’t”.
After the deal to buy Nokia went through, Elop moved to a different cushty position within Microsoft.
Nokia didn’t really fumble smartphones. They were purposely ran into the ground by Microsoft so they could use a powerful brand name as the the thin end of a wedge to take over the phone market, without having to pay much for it. Then Microsoft fumbled it from then on out.
all they needed to do is to make the app making/launching easier and more profitable to the devs and I think the OS would be still alive. They pulled the plug too fast.
They chose windows os over android. It was their downfall. The amazingly designed phones we could have had if they would have used Android instead… I miss my old Nokia phones, all of them but especially the 3310.
Windows OS was the better OS as the time, ran great on low spec hardware, and the tile system and integration of apps was a a lot better than anything Android or iOS has to offer at the time.
The downfall was hardly any apps, changing the OS so much every update that the people that were developing left the eco-system because they where fed up of having to change their apps again, and hardly any first party apps.
The promise that you could run Android apps on your Windows phone device was never delivered.
Also Steve doubling down that he was too busy to use apps so why would you want them on your phone thing.
I still love my Lumia and turn in on from time to time
I would have never gotten a Lumia back in 2013 if it ran Android. I would’ve stuck with iOS. Android was hideous and a mess. People here don’t like Microsoft but WP was way ahead of its time in a number of aspects and complemented the Lumia design language really well.
Windows phones were extremily unstable. Android was indeed a mess, but it ran reasonably well on all phones while Windows phones had poor support and many crashed a lot. By the way, I indeed don’t like Microsoft, but I dislike that company as much as Google and almost as much as Apple.
I could swap the word Windows phone and Android in your statement and that was my experience then. This was the Galaxy S3 era where Android ran like a stuttery mess. No apps have ever crashed on my Lumia at least until I installed developer previews towards the end of it’s life (it wasn’t even a supported model to begin with) and it was smooth as butter so I’m not sure where you got this idea from. Have you ever used one back then?
Yeah I had a Moterola. Nearly everyone I knew with a windows phone had issues. It’s also why I switched. But it’s sad though, we need more options. Now I’m hoping for Linux phones, because fuck Apple, fuck Microsoft and fuck Google. Welcome to the age of the technocrats, where people are forced into submission by stripping them of their rights and their privacy by techbro oligarchs.
Are you sure you’re talking about Windows Phone or Windows Mobile because the only Motorola phone I could find online that ran Windows was Windows Mobile from way back in the mid 2000s which is completely different from Windows Phone that came out in the 2010s.
Ah, I guess that must be it than. My time perception is crap, you are probably right. I know I got an iPhone 3 and 4 and switched to android afterwards, a Samsung galaxy 3 to start with. Before the iPhone I had Nokia phones and during that time a Moterola with windows os on in. Thanks for clearing it up though! Too bad they didn’t continue. We need more options and rivalry.
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Nokia was the Casio of mobile phones. Sad it couldn’t keep up with the smartphone era.
Nokia was purposely sabotaged by Stephen Elop.
Elop was a Microsoft employee who moved to Nokia to become their CEO.
Elop scrapped Meego as well as the rapidly-improving and highly promising Symbian OS that Nokia had, killed internal projects that used Android, and went all in on Windows Phone 7, a completely unproven platform that just happened to be from his ex employer.
After the market really didn’t like that, Microsoft was able to buy Nokia for a bargain price (€5.4bn), and Elop was given a €18.8m bonus.
Curiosly, that bonus works out as €1 million for every €1 billion that was wiped off Nokia’s market cap during his time as CEO. But I’m sure that’s just a coincidence…
When he was asked for the good of the company to take a smaller bonus, Elop said that he “couldn’t”.
After the deal to buy Nokia went through, Elop moved to a different cushty position within Microsoft.
Nokia didn’t really fumble smartphones. They were purposely ran into the ground by Microsoft so they could use a powerful brand name as the the thin end of a wedge to take over the phone market, without having to pay much for it. Then Microsoft fumbled it from then on out.
all they needed to do is to make the app making/launching easier and more profitable to the devs and I think the OS would be still alive. They pulled the plug too fast.
Classic Microsoft. Never trust a Microsoft anything really.
They chose windows os over android. It was their downfall. The amazingly designed phones we could have had if they would have used Android instead… I miss my old Nokia phones, all of them but especially the 3310.
Windows OS was the better OS as the time, ran great on low spec hardware, and the tile system and integration of apps was a a lot better than anything Android or iOS has to offer at the time. The downfall was hardly any apps, changing the OS so much every update that the people that were developing left the eco-system because they where fed up of having to change their apps again, and hardly any first party apps. The promise that you could run Android apps on your Windows phone device was never delivered. Also Steve doubling down that he was too busy to use apps so why would you want them on your phone thing.
I still love my Lumia and turn in on from time to time
I would have never gotten a Lumia back in 2013 if it ran Android. I would’ve stuck with iOS. Android was hideous and a mess. People here don’t like Microsoft but WP was way ahead of its time in a number of aspects and complemented the Lumia design language really well.
Windows phones were extremily unstable. Android was indeed a mess, but it ran reasonably well on all phones while Windows phones had poor support and many crashed a lot. By the way, I indeed don’t like Microsoft, but I dislike that company as much as Google and almost as much as Apple.
I could swap the word Windows phone and Android in your statement and that was my experience then. This was the Galaxy S3 era where Android ran like a stuttery mess. No apps have ever crashed on my Lumia at least until I installed developer previews towards the end of it’s life (it wasn’t even a supported model to begin with) and it was smooth as butter so I’m not sure where you got this idea from. Have you ever used one back then?
Yeah I had a Moterola. Nearly everyone I knew with a windows phone had issues. It’s also why I switched. But it’s sad though, we need more options. Now I’m hoping for Linux phones, because fuck Apple, fuck Microsoft and fuck Google. Welcome to the age of the technocrats, where people are forced into submission by stripping them of their rights and their privacy by techbro oligarchs.
Are you sure you’re talking about Windows Phone or Windows Mobile because the only Motorola phone I could find online that ran Windows was Windows Mobile from way back in the mid 2000s which is completely different from Windows Phone that came out in the 2010s.
Ah, I guess that must be it than. My time perception is crap, you are probably right. I know I got an iPhone 3 and 4 and switched to android afterwards, a Samsung galaxy 3 to start with. Before the iPhone I had Nokia phones and during that time a Moterola with windows os on in. Thanks for clearing it up though! Too bad they didn’t continue. We need more options and rivalry.