BREAKING - Tiktok has now SHUT DOWN SERVICES in the United States, noting “A law banning Tiktok has been enacted in the U.S. Unfortunately, that means you can’t use TikTok for now. We are fortunate that President Trump has indicated that he will work with us on a solution to reinstate Tiktok once he takes office. Please stay tuned!”

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  • webghost0101@sopuli.xyz
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    10 hours ago

    Accurate perspective but another one is this was a very successful social engineering of US politics by its global adversaries.

    Dems have been been trying to pull back the moment they released they got played but its to late. Above messaging is additional salt in the wound.

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      How did they “[get] played”? Like the poster you replied too said, it was a completely unforced error on their part. It feels like they tried to jump on the right-wing “China bad” bandwagon and it bit them in the arse.

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        Its pure speculation but i suspect china may have purposely pushed for the tiktok is spyware narrative and fueled the china bad bandwagon themselves.

        They made it a real privacy nightmare but also by made sure western leaders know it is a privacy nightmare.

        Something i noted is that European parlement and many individual European govs have in recent years put up laws banning tiktok for gov officials and all staff but not the general public/citizens.

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          Its pure speculation but

          you know you can just…stop typing after that, right?

          i suspect china may have purposely pushed for the tiktok is spyware narrative and fueled the china bad bandwagon themselves.

          you’re making the same racist assumption that underlies the TikTok ban itself - that Chinese people are inherently nefarious, untrustworthy, always hatching schemes and plots and subterfuge.

          the US does not need to be “tricked” into passing laws that are rooted in anti-Chinese bigotry. it’s basically a national pastime.

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            Lol, This implies that Chinese citizens somehow have a say in what their government elite desires. I don’t think they are much different then anyone else.

            If it makes you feel better the US puts just as much energy into manipulating other countries as other countries do into them. And may i remind you of the chat control Europe routinely tries to sneak in a ban encryption for all its citizens without them noticing. my original comment addressed “global adversaries”, i only mentioned china replying to a comment specify about china. So not racist, I am anti any centralized power structure because power always corrupts.

            The fact is that governments have always (amongst other things) been rooted in a centralized resource and population control. The big problem as i would call it is that the emergent complexity of global politics makes the dynamics so complex not a single person, not even a president is capable of knowing more then the micro-environment they exist within. This is precisely why states feel a need to create extensive bureaucracies and specialized agencies which historically have a tendency to evolve into centralized powered structures themselves and power always corrupts.

            No nations, No borders, No gods, No masters

        • Norah (pup/it/she)@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          Honestly this just sounds like more conspiracy theory than fact. Remember Occam’s Razor, the simplest solution is usually correct.

          Like don’t get me wrong, TikTok is absolutely an extension of soft power, and it’s likely that the Chinese government has access to the huge amount of data the platform collects. But I think anything beyond that is just not likely.