• Snot Flickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    No way we’re making chips stateside with the Department of Education on the chopping block.

    So many schools will close and you sure as shit ain’t training people who can make top of the line chips with no fucking schools.

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      They plan to import workers with visas and then hold those visas over their heads to force them to work for peanuts.

      I mean, they do this small-scale already.

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        As the standard of living and pay in the USA quickly tanks and becomes less desirable than where they’re from, those people will stop applying for those positions.

        They can’t force foreigners to sign up for H-1B visas. The whole point is the salary is currently and the USA is currently a desirable place to live. Won’t stay that way long. They’re literally tearing down all the things that made it desirable to begin with.

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          Someone commented here yesterday that just as NAFTA allowed manufacturers to export jobs and find reasoning to squeeze blue collar workers, creating a general shift to white-collar work in the U.S., this move is designed to squeeze those higher paying white-collar jobs, so that even more money goes into corporate and investor coffers.
          My own addition to that thought is that it seems the natural end product is that the only way to make money once that system has done it’s evil deeds is to have money and be a member of the investor class.

          Or, in other words - they aim to do to all of the U.S. what Walmart did to small towns across the U.S.

          Without a care in the world, obviously. I think the people wealthy enough to not be impacted by this will thrive on exploitation until the U.S. economy is sucked dry to the point of unsustainability for their grift (or revolution occurs), then, like the parasites they are, will take their grotesque wealth and move onto other economies they can exploit.

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            I’ve been saying this for years now. The wealthy here are now international wealthy. They don’t care about borders. Musk hops his private jet and goes wherever the fuck he wants whenever he wants and no governments seem to be in his way.

            They are done with the high standard of living in the US. They think we’re coddled and don’t deserve it. They’re done trying to bring up international living standards to match America and are all-in on bringing American living standards down to match the rest of the planet.

            This is the strip-mining stage of American capitalism. They’ve turned all the economic tools that they used to subjugate South America (Chile for example), using Milton Friedman’s Economic Shock Treatment here at home in the US.

            They really don’t give a damn, they’re done with us. We’re being dropped like a jilted lover.

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          Why would anyone want to come over here right now? I don’t even want to be here.

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            A lot of immigrants are paid more highly in the US than they are in their home countries.

            The Indian Rupee, for example, has a poor exchange rate with the US dollar and they have higher salaries in the US.

            So they take an H-1B job and they make enough to take care of themselves in the US and usually have US dollars they can send home to their family which can be exchanged for large amounts of rupees.

            Current exchange is rougly $1 USD to about ₹80 rupees.

            This will change as the US economy tanks and people stop using the US dollar as a reserve currency.

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          Especially as foreigners learn how much we seem to want to exploit them. Whether in agriculture, housekeeping, or nuclear physics, the common denominator is taking advantage of foreigners who we constantly profess our hatred for.

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      The factory TSMC opened in the USA was mostly staffed with workers from Taiwan, because Americans won’t work 996.

      It also only makes dies (the functional part of the IC), that still have to be exported to Taiwan for packaging.

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      How is the Department of Education relevant? It was created in 1980, and it’s not like we didn’t have good education before then. It doesn’t run schools, and it does a whole bunch of stuff largely unrelated to running schools. Schools are largely funded and run locally, and there really wasn’t any standardization of education until Obama’s “Common Core,” and a lot of states still don’t implement it.

      Cuts to the Department of Education will largely not impact schools, at least not K-12. Universities could be impacted if federal loans and grants are cut, but that could also be a good thing since it’ll cut the cash cow that allowed universities to jack up tuition and dramatically expand administration.

      That said, even if engineering departments at universities are gutted, it’ll be many years before we see impacts in industry, and there’s a very good chance companies like Intel will fund scholarships and whatnot to keep those programs alive.

      The Department of Education is one of the areas I think we should make cuts. End the federal student loan program but keep grants (should help cut university costs), end whatever created Common Core (should be an independent nonprofit that states and private schools fund for education research), and keep most of the rest (and probably rename it since it doesn’t touch education much anymore). Oh, and investigate university costs to see what else is pushing prices up.

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        I think you’re underestimating the Department of Education’s role in preventing red states from destroying public education. They can now do whatever they want with their education system and there is absolutely zero federal oversight coming their way. And you better believe Republican state legislatures are chomping at the bit for this one.

        Edit: “champing at the bit” per u/slumberlust

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          It’s kind of fascinating. In Germany recently the idea of a federal education ministry has been floated and the general answer was “no”. Other states don’t want to have to deal with CSU politicians trying to get “the purpose of the school is to instil fear of god” into law applicable on their turf, that BS can stay in Bavaria. The federation is co-responsible for tertiary education (university etc) because they have responsibility when it comes to research so they can set, in practice, some standards regarding secondary graduation but that’s it.

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          The phrase is champing at the bit. I was 35 years old before I learned that, so thought I’d pass it on. Thanks for posting!

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            I love learning new things, thank you for helping update my phrasing! Also 35, maybe this is just when we’re supposed to learn this phrase?

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          I think you’re overstating how effective the DoEd is at coordinating curriculum, as well as how effective state governments are at the same.

          I’m in a red state (Utah), and we’re pretty competitive in terms of scholastic attainment (top 15 in most metrics), above many blue states that spend way more on education. Higher spending does not seem correlated with higher achievement. Also, from non-rigorous comparison of some state lists of academic achievement (like this wiki page), I don’t see a clear relationship between how states vote and academic performance that can’t more convincingly be explained by rural vs urban/suburban demographics.

          So while it’s a popular talking point, I’m not convinced the DoEd is actually helping here. Schools will do better in areas with more parental engagement, and curriculum choice, funding, and rigor in testing don’t seem have much of an impact. We’re spending more than ever, have strict education standards, etc, yet test scores continue to drop across the country.

          So no, I don’t think the DoEd is effective, and in fact I think they’re largely to blame for tuition outpacing inflation, because student loans are easier to get, so sold m schools can get away with raising prices.

          What we should have are laws that states must maintain a secular education, and if religion is taught, all major religions are given equal treatment. That, and that states must provide a free K-12 education for all residents, and that public universities must be affordable for all residents who qualify (with grants as appropriate). That’s it, no common standard, no loans, etc. Education is better handled locally.

          That said, I don’t trust Trump or Musk to handle this properly.