• theshatterstone54@feddit.uk
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      Actually, yes. Firefox is good but I hate the UI. Okay, Brave seems nice. Love the UI, sync feels slow, and why can I not move the top bar to the bottom on mobile??? Phones are BIG. Don’t make it harder for me to use your product. Okay, there is Vivaldi, king of customisability. Nice, but feels slow. Back to Firefox. Still hate UI. And now wanting a better new tab page. Proceed to discover Tabliss for a good new tab page, and Firefox-UI-Fix on github to give me a better UI on Firefox desktop. Wow, problems solved. I’m sticking to Firefox forever (unless I decide to switch to Librewolf where I can still implement all the same fixes as on Firefox).

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        Floorp is Firefox with Vivaldi-style tweaks. Part of it is what Firefox really should be right now.

        If you’re a minimalist, I can vouch for Pulse Browser, with sidebar tabs (native to Pulse, similar to Edge) and Simple Tab Groups, it’s great.

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          Yeah, but I’m on firefox and I’m happy. I have basically 0 issues. If I was on Brave, I would have still had to worry about disabling the crypto crap as well.

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      Nope. Many Chromium forks already have very good inbuilt adblockers , which won’t be affected by the MV3 stuff. On top of that, one could also use system-wide blockers such as AdGuard and DNS-level blockers (which is not even a bad idea if you’re on Windows anyway).

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              If anything, they’re worse.

              1. Brave is an advertising company, that blocks everyone, but them. Forcing over people and companies into their system.
              2. They’re heavily in the blockchain ecosystem, with their own worthless crypto.
              3. They take from open source projects (uBlock, Chromium, etc), but threaten legal action when someone forks them.
              4. They install bloat/spyware on your Windows system (later claimed it was a mistake).
              5. Brave, and its CEO is right-wing, lobbying against things like same-sex marriage.

              I could go on.

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                Don’t forget the worst most condescending people working for Brave. I actually had one of their people antagonize me on social media years ago for not liking their invasive homepage at the time.

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                1. Brave is an advertising company, that blocks everyone, but them.

                So like very other ad company.

                Forcing over people and companies into their system.

                [citation needed]

                1. The crypto stuff is opt-in.
                2. [citation needed] I’m talking about the legal action stuff. Fun fact, Gab made a Brave fork called Dissenter. Nothing happened to them.
                3. Yeah, Brave VPN is BS.
                4. About Brendan Eich, I can’t see nothing about his beliefs reflecting in his work. Looks like he kept them separated. Also he’s a co-founder of Mozilla. So if you’re not going to use Brave because of him. How can you use Firefox? About Brave lobbying against things like same-sex marriage. Will, [citation needed].

                If you need Chromium browser. Just use ungoogled-chromium, Windows version.

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        Man’s 3 poignant inquiries away from peddling Brave. Tread carefully folks.

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        System wide ad blockers can’t block a lot of ads, namely same-domain ads or those that are built into the html. Much rarer than the external page kind (DNS ones) thankfully.

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        Yeah surel, I’ll use the inadequate browser but fox the problems with system wide ad blockers, instead of just using a browser, that doesn’t steal my data and let’s me install addons that I want. Google is way out of bounds here imho.

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          Use whatever suits you. I’m just saying that people already using browsers with a built-in AdBlock aren’t going to switch, because they won’t even notice the MV3 stuff.

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            Aren’t all those ad blockers and distribution platforms too? Heard about ABP that sell ad space for example.

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              IIRC, ABP used to whiteliste some “acceptable” ads (non invasive, etc…). Frankly, it’s been literally ages since I have used it, so I don’t know how they behave right now. I was referring to AdGuard as a system-wide adblocker, though, which is a completely different story.

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        As far as I know most inbuilt adblockers, don’t work very well. Especially with yt. Everytime yt does something, you would probably have to wait for new version of your browser, and even then it is questionable if it would work. With ublock origin you just click on one button and you are good to go. If somebody doesn’t know, I’m talking about refreshing your filters.

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          I’m yet to see any ad since I’ve started using Brave. Din know about YouTube, I don’t use it.

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          As long as these browsers themselves exist. Inbuilt adblockers aren’t extension, are integral parts of the browsers, and don’t need to follow extensions’ rules.

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      Moved to Firefox a while ago, specifically because of Manifest V3.

      The only issue I’ve found so far is that you can’t log in to PSN on it. Just locks the browser completely and you need to kill it in task manager. Apparently it’s to do with password saving.

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      I’ll consider Firefox when they have extension support on iOS, like Orion does.

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        See, the fact they don’t is apples fault, their play store guidelines make it impossible for Firefox to add extensions

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            App Store requires all web access be rendered in safari

            Any browser you get on IOS is Safari and so you are right that they could have extensions but it would be impossible for their old extensions to match up/everything has to be rewritten

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        Good luck with that. All browsing on iOS is Safari, so likely all the FF extensions would need to be remade from scratch.