China is helping Russia evade Western sanctions and likely providing Moscow with military and dual-use technology for use in Ukraine, according to an unclassified U.S. intelligence report released on Thursday.
  • ☭ Blursty ☭@lemmygrad.ml
    14·
    1 year ago

    “China is helping Russia evade Western sanctions”

    Uh, even if this is true, so what? China isn’t beholden to the west? The notions of supremacy are unreal with American media.

    • chaosmode@lemmy.ml
      4·
      1 year ago

      As a Canadian American who currently hates Russia and what Russia feels is an appropriate reaction to Ukraine seeking to join Nato. Not to mention the number of children they have killed, civilians they have openly executed…I couldn’t hate Russia more than I do right now. Used to respect them and like Putin. Anyways, even though it sucks, Russia and China have every right to work together. We can’t control things like this. However, I hope Ukraine kicks Russia’s ass.

    • steltek@lemm.ee
      4·
      1 year ago

      China lied about its actions and is supporting the aggressor of a despicable invasion.

    • BrikoX@lemmy.zipOPEnglish
      2·
      1 year ago

      It’s interesting though as weak Russia is in China’s favor. But it seems that they choosing short-time gain of cheap gas/oil instead for now.

      • OurToothbrush@lemmy.mlM
        2·
        1 year ago

        A weak Russia wouldn’t distract the flailing US empire’s focus while China continues to overtake the US. China is absolutely interested in a strong Russia.

        • pingveno@lemmy.mlEnglish
          1·
          1 year ago

          It’s currently under question whether China will ever overtake the US in GDP. If you’re solely projecting based on the assumption that current growth will continue that is a sensible conclusion, but it’s a faulty one. First and foremost, China has a much older demographic makeup that will be a drag on economic grow. Second, the birthrate is significantly lower than the US (1.28 in China vs 1.64 in the US in 2020), where 2.1 is replacement. Last, the US has decent amounts of immigration that help make up the difference between births and replacement, while China is experiencing negative migration rates. China and the US are both attempting policy changes, but haven’t had much success.

          • OurToothbrush@lemmy.mlM
            2·
            1 year ago

            Russia has the GDP of Italy. It isnt a great way to measure productive capacity. China has overtaken the US in productive capacity already.

            • pingveno@lemmy.ml
              1·
              1 year ago

              I’m not talking about Russia, though they have the same demographic issues without the strong economy and with high rates of corruption. China does indeed lead in manufacturing, but not in overall GDP. There is no guarantee they will retain that lead either.

              • OurToothbrush@lemmy.mlM
                1·
                1 year ago

                I’ll breK it down for you.

                GDP is not the best measure of how large an economy is doing. That was why I referenced Russia.

                A joke to illustrate why:

                Two economicists are walking down a sidewalk. They see a dog shit. One pays the other 20 dollars to eat it. A spectator asks in horror why the man ate dogshit. He says “I felt it was important to add 20 dollars to the GDP”.

                China does indeed lead in manufacturing, but not in overall GDP. There is no guarantee they will retain that lead either.

                Oh, I agree. At some point in the 22nd century a pan-african alliance will probably overtake them.

                • pingveno@lemmy.ml
                  1·
                  1 year ago

                  GDP is not the best measure of how large an economy is doing.

                  What is the best measurement, then? Manufacturing capacity alone isn’t a good measurement, since that is just one part of the economy. Most advice I’ve heard is to draw from many different indices to produce a fuller picture of an economy, keeping in mind the strengths and weaknesses of each individual number.

                  • OurToothbrush@lemmy.mlM
                    1·
                    1 year ago

                    When I use the word manufacture here I am referring to commodity production. Food, heavy industry, washing machines, putting together your coffee order. Commodity production+ distribution is the best way to determine how big an economy is.