• blazera@kbin.social
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    No, it calls out lobbyists, and israeli occupation of palestine. No mention of a global jihad

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      I haven’t read whatever letter you guys are talking about and frankly I don’t give a fuck what it says.

      Find someone better to quote than fucking Osama bin Laden. Jesus Christ.

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          I mean, if people want to waste their time reading the manifesto of a terrorist, they should and least make it interesting and read that of the Unabomber.

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            Don’t get me wrong, I’m not the type to go around posting terrorist manifestos lol. It’s only because this was in the news

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              Haha, yeah, I didn’t get the feeling you were actively promoting it.

              I really wonder how this bin Laden stuff started, if it’s dishonest actors trying to discredit support for Palestine or if it’s just people genuinely being that stupid. Sadly I think both explanations are plausible.

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                I mean, to be fair, Israel needs some propaganda wins after it turned out the “Hamas HQ” was actually just a hospital.

                and remember they did a big hubub about how Hamas stores and produces weapons, along with it being one of the big terrorist headquarters.

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          This is NOT the letter! I found the exact same page when I searched for it, I don’t know where this is from, but it is not Bin Laden’s letter.

          If you want to find it, search for the page from The Guardian (they have removed the text but the page is still around) and use the Wayback Machine.

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          i agree, the antisemitism struck me as well. but the israeli government is far right. that needs to end because it will destroy the jewish people as outside forces never could.

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        i read all of it. not once did he call for anyone to be any religion. he noted how israel has oppressed palestinians, noted similarities between how britain was pro-wealthy against the colonists and our situation now where corporations buy the laws they want, courts side with them, and presidents are just “train conductors” who must drive on the tracks laid down by lobbyists. he mentions unending war and its costs, suggests we have a revolution like that which started out country, says 9/ll was because we sent people out to kill in afghanistan and it was still going on. he notes that tho politicians claimed it was to help afghanistan and for our own security back home, it’s really about oil and its the further bloat bloated fat cats.

        a “terrorist” is someone who uses force to try to get their way. their way s and views could be wrong or right or a mix. but there’s nothin whatsoever about a turning anyone muslim.

        tl;dr he says our govt is an oligarchy, we should rebel, and he bombed us to get us to go away, and also to stop supporting israel in oppressing palestine.