I’ve some weeks ago moved my main computer from Windows 10 to Linux, specifically OpenSUSE Leap with the Plasma user environment, mainly because it doesn’t have the magic Windows 11 chip. I had never used Linux and have been a Windows user since I was six years old or somewhere around then (I’m in my late twenties now). I’d just like to share my likes and dislikes.

Things I like about Linux (my specific install, anyway):

  • Not being a corporate environment. There aren’t any cheeky attempts at making money or advertisement anywhere, like the annoying fake widgets in Windows 11 and the half-filled start menu. I’ve gotten used to that on my laptop (which is running 11), but you do always have the feeling of ‘what are they trying now?’ That not being a thing is quite refreshing.
  • In that veign, having actual widgets. I loved them in Windows 7; I’ve got a webpage widget on my second screen showing a Zoho sheet I made with an RSS feed. Just being able to be a bit creative like that is cool.
  • The system seems quite a bit quicker than it was in Windows - though in all honesty this will also be because I’m still on a fairly fresh install.
  • I’m positively surprised by how little I miss from Windows when it comes to programs. Steam having compatibility tools is great, for example. Otherwise there are often replacements for what I’m missing (eg. I’ve found one to allow general settings for my Logitech mouse).
  • The general ability to change the way everything looks and feels. I feel technical people sometimes look down a bit on aesthetics, but I really care about the user interface I use day in day out looking and feeling nice. While I’m a fan of the Windows 11 look myself, I really like how much I’ve been able to get my UI to look how I want it to in Plasma. Though I’m a bit surprised that it’s so hard to change the appearance of the start menu and bottom panel. I’ve had to install a specific program to change their colouring.
  • The little icon jumping next to your cursor when opening a program (I know, I’m easily amused).

Things I’ve found annoying:

  • Not knowing where to find anything. Of course, coming from Windows I’m used to there being a program files folder with my programs’ folders, and a documents folder with (often) user settings for those programs. In Linux, everything just seems to be everywhere. What seems to be the ‘documents’ equivalent for the game Factorio is in my user folder in a hidden .factorio, but I’ve to no avail been trying to find out where my ‘documents’ for Workers and Resources are. I’ll find them eventually, I’m sure. In general, I’m looking around a lot, though.
  • The lingering feeling of instability. This is my second install of OpenSUSE, after I messed up something leading to my computer having some files which it wanted to update, but using urls which didn’t exist. After this, I’ve been feeling a bit insecure and afraid of doing something that ruins my installation. I know there’s the saying that Linux ‘just works’, but I’ve never messed up a Windows installation…
  • The capslock works differently, apparently. I’m used to writing every capital letter using the capslock key, meaning if I write a capital at the beginning of a word, I press capslock, then type the first letter, then quickly press capslock again and type the rest. In Linux, this often doesn’t work as it somehow takes a while for the capslock press to go into effect, so you often end up with ‘LInux’, for example. After lots of looking around, I have found some script that seems to fix this (‘Linux CapsLock Delay Fixer Master’), but it also randomly stops working and there are other ‘oddities’ I can’t really explain.
  • Every once in a while, my desktop icons get rearranged. This seems to be a known issue, but it’s really annoying.
  • It seems impossible to get Firefox to not restore sessions after shutting down the computer with it still open. I’ve tried several things, but I can’t get Firefox to just give me a fresh session on startup.
  • The above all add to a bit of a general ‘stuck together with adhesive tape and love’ feeling.
  • Not knowing how to install programs. This is more of a learning-curve thing, obviously. The software centre didn’t contain everything I could find online - for some programs, you could use ‘one click’ in OpenSUSE, but that seems to work more like a self-destruct button: I’ve tried those several times and have always had bad results >.>. I’ve found it’s easiest to install programs just using flatpaks.

All in all, I am quite happy. Though I am still afraid I’ll mess up my installation, and I’m now at a point where that’d hurt. I have installed Timeshift, but also with mixed results…

  • ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org
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    Not knowing where to find anything. Of course, coming from Windows I’m used to there being a program files folder with my programs’ folders, and a documents folder with (often) user settings for those programs. In Linux, everything just seems to be everywhere. What seems to be the ‘documents’ equivalent for the game Factorio is in my user folder in a hidden .factorio, but I’ve to no avail been trying to find out where my ‘documents’ for Workers and Resources are. I’ll find them eventually, I’m sure. In general, I’m looking around a lot, though.

    Most of your user’s files will be in your home directory: /home/username (or ~ for short).

    Inside of that, some more or less popular programs litter into the root of your directory (like ~/.mozilla), but the more behaved ones store config files in ~/.config, and data in ~/.local (mostly ~/.local/share).

    Flatpak will place data of its apps in ~/.var.

    Other then your home directory, /etc contains config files for programs across the system (but mostly for background services and admin tools). If you want to make changes, most of them supports putting comments to lines starting with #. Use that to keep notes on why you changed something, and to keep the previous version of the changed line so that you can more easily recover a bad change.

    /usr contains software, but in a very broad sense because manuals and default congigs often get placed here too. The doesn’t have anything to do with users, it’s an acronym for a different thing. All directories here are managed by your package manager (zypper on suse), if you edit or delete something zypper will probably undo it at some point. An exception is /usr/local, it’s the same structure but for programs that you install without a package manager, perhaps you built it from source fode, sometimes that’s useful too.

    /run is in memory, subdird by user id, programs often put runtime data here. It’s lost on reboot.

    /tmp is for temporary files. if it’s a tmpfs filesystem (check with running df -h) then it’s also in memory (and thus very fast, but consumes RAM) and lost on reboot, but I think by default it’s persistent on disk without auto cleanup on suse.

    /var holds data for the system. like varoius logs are in /var/log. those are mostly text files, but systemd’s journal is not.

    /mnt and /media is where other filesystems are mounted. the former is for temporary mounts, but I also mount my other disks and partitions there, and the latter is for e.g. your USB connected portable storage.
    Portable storage mounting is often handled by the system, like KDE should show an icon on the taskbar when something is connected, but internal storage mounting is set up in /etc/fstab. You can read man fstab if you want to learn how that file works, and feel free to try running man with other technical keywords you find because chances are good it has a man page. Finally, don’t attempt to mount filesystems that were being used by a currently hibernated windows.

    Not knowing how to install programs. This is more of a learning-curve thing, obviously. The software centre didn’t contain everything I could find online - for some programs, you could use ‘one click’ in OpenSUSE, but that seems to work more like a self-destruct button: I’ve tried those several times and have always had bad results >.>. I’ve found it’s easiest to install programs just using flatpaks.

    Mostly with zypper or YaST Software Management, which are different frontends for the same. If you don’t find something, or want to have newer versions, there is Flatpak. Flatpak provides some level of permissions control, but there are leaks especially with an X11 session, so don’t install something you don’t trust.

    If you don’t find something in default repos, you can add new ones but be very careful with that, and set repo priorities sensibly, more important repos with a lower number. SUSE has some additional half-official repos on OBS, but there’s also a bunch of community repositories managed by a random person on the internet. Be especially careful with the latter because no one officially test these or checks for malware.

    OpenSUSE’s package management uses RPM packages. Sometimes when a package is not on the main repos, your only choice is to download an .rpm file and install it with rpm -i filename.

    Lastly, for statically built software, you may see that they are available in a tar.gz or tar.xz file (similar to a .zip but more modern). You can just unpack them wherever you see fit and run them, but it’s better to have them longer term in subdirs of /usr/local/lib/, with symlinks to the executables in /usr/local/bin/.

    I have been using suse for a few years now and I also find their oneclick .ymp files very confusing. Firefox cannot open them, you have to download it and open separately.
    But then it will offer you to add 2 dozen repositories that you better not add to the system, but it also won’t allow selecting one, it will want to add all or nothing.
    At this point what I don’t understand is what is its purpose, if not fucking up the system?

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    That Caps lock thing is a bug. It is not supposed to happen. Something is wrong in your system

    That firefox not restoring session is also a bug, it does not happen in most cases

    You could add the following

    • Pinch to zoom in laptop touchpad is not a thing

    • Some programs will not play nicely with themes, like title bar and menu bar following dark mode, most apps not following dark mode followed by the bottom most part of UI in dark mode. Its honestly frustrating

    Not wanting to break your system is quiet a common wish of most people. Good news is, you are on OpenSUSE and that thing is supposed to be stable. Bad news is, you are new to linux and will inevitably break things. Here are few tips from my side to help you not break things

    1: When you are asked to modify system file by deleting some other file, do not delete the old file, rather, rename it to something else, change its extension or move it outside

    2: Try to find fix that is least complicated, often times you will have many solutions with different pros and cons. If you can help yourself, try the change that is easiest to revert

    3: Always take notes, if you had a problem and you did some things, note what you did and why/how you did it. What was in your mind when you did it.

    4: Understand why a setting is the way it is before changing. I see alot of guides that teach you to make your system fast or make it lightweight, etc by changing some default settings. Before changing them, ask why they were the way they were. Somone at OpenSUSE probably decided to set it that way for a reason. Try to understand why and what are the consequences of changing them. Now, I am not saying you should not change it. Often times, distro maintainers try to be as generalist as possible to support as many hardware as possible like installing all kinds of drivers. You may get away removing support for things you dont actually need.

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    I’m here, l’ll help you solve your issue.

    mostly everything will be downloaded in your /home folder and apps that ask for where to save files you can tell where to save.

    wait for some time ask for help don’t fresh install just because you run into some issue, ik you wanna get your work done asap but it happens to the best of us, btw you’ll learn to fix issues.

    Never knew until you told me that capslock works different on linux.

    try removing the panel and add new one, and if happenes again then it’s definitely a bug.

    check ff settings that you’ve enabled restore previous session or open previous windows or tabs something like that and checkout firefox/tweaks

    I’m not against flatpaks at all but if you have the same program/app in official repos then use package manager cuz if u use flatpaks then you’ve to mess with permission or you’ve to theme them and you’ll need apps like flatseal or warehouse to manage flatpaks.

    also checkout Open Build Service (OBS) it’s for opensuse

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    First and foremost, welcome to Linux!

    Few pointers to hopefully help the process :

    • “Not knowing where to find anything.” indeed, it’s disorienting but it will come. You can find actual “maps” but honestly, just as you would do in other operating system, use the search function. If it’s not obvious this way, search online. The first few times it will be weird then each time it does become easier until it actually makes sense!
    • “The lingering feeling of instability.” have a /home directory (not “folder”, that’s funnily enough a Windows term as they tried to be different, going from the unanimously used / to their own C:\ things) so that you can actually go “nuts” with your installation, actually messing things up but without the fear of losing your precious data! Each new install is an occasion to learn. That being said, Linux is very VERY stable. I’ve been running the same installation for years, on desktop and servers alike. If something goes wrong it can usually be fixed and it’s, again, an occasion to learn. That being said, having a dedicated /home directory on its own partition or even disk gives you the opportunity for a low effort low risk blank slate.
    • “The capslock works differently” … well this one is quick, you’re looking for the SHIFT key if you only want to type few characters in uppercase ;)
    • “Every once in a while, my desktop icons get rearranged.” yet another occasion to learn. What’s the bug from? Is there an issue open? Is it being worked on? By whom? How? Why? You might even be able to fix it!
    • “It seems impossible to get Firefox to not restore sessions after shutting down the computer with it still open.” it’s in the Firefox preference : Settings -> Startup -> untick “Open previous windows and tabs”, literally the first option.
    • “The above all add to a bit of a general ‘stuck together with adhesive tape and love’ feeling.” nice, and that’s just the surface, it’s now YOUR system so you can do whatever you want, even if everybody else disagree.
    • “Not knowing how to install programs.” well that loops back to all the learning opportunities above and the last remark, it’s YOUR system so you can use whatever you prefer, both in terms of apps, settings or even how to install (or not! Check e.g. Nix) apps. There are even “weirder” things like https://github.com/ivan-hc/AM but the point is, you decide, again, always!
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    I will answer to your annoyances from my context: I use Bazzite on my gaming rig and Aurora on my work laptop.

    1. I only use Flatpaks for GUI apps and Homebrew for CLI apps, things are stored in their respective folders.

    2. My chosen distros are atomic / immutable, only user files can be changed, the system is shielded from breakage. You just can’t brick it unless you really want to.

    3. Caps lock works the same as windows.

    4. Desktop shortcuts rearranging, didn’t happen to me / haven’t noticed.

    5. Firefox restoring session no matter what: I’ll try that and get back to you.

    6. Bazzite & Aurora are very polished.

    7. Flatpaks are the best, for CLI apps I use homebrew.

    8. Bazzite / Aurora have automatically generated rollback images.

    Honestly, if you want something that works for you and not the other way around, I suggest you use an Universal Blue distro.

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      Caps lock works the same as windows.

      Capslock definitely doesn’t work the same as in Windows. If it did, I wouldn’t need to run a weird script to get it to behave like how I’m used to after more than twenty years of using Windows. I’m not the only one with this problem either (this is actually exactly the reason why someone went and made said script), nor is it only present in OpenSUSE. I’ve read it’s a general Linux thing, and I can at least say it’s on Mint as well. Interestingly (though unrelatedly) on Samsung Dex as well.

      Another difference in behavior I’ve noticed is that in Windows, if you press capslock to turn it off, it does so upon pressing the key. In Linux, it does so only after releasing the key. Pretty weird.

      Firefox restoring session no matter what: I’ll try that and get back to you.

      No need, ikidd@lemmy.world suggested deinstalling the default Firefox installation and then installing it as a flatpak; this fixed the issue.

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        Regarding Caps Lock, the user named “warmaster” only relayed their own experiences. FWIW, I can relate to their experience. Ever since my switch from Windows to Fedora Silverblue, I haven’t experienced any difference in Caps Lock functionality; it’s literally the same as I was used to on Windows. And thus the very same you* said you liked. My repertoire of distros ain’t as impressive as some notorious distro-hoppers. However, I don’t recall this to be different on Arch, EndeavourOS, Nobara or other images within the Fedora Atomic ecosystem.

        Edit: added “you”

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    The capslock works differently, apparently. I’m used to writing every capital letter using the capslock key, meaning if I write a capital at the beginning of a word, I press capslock, then type the first letter, then quickly press capslock again and type the rest.

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    Pressing caps lock for a single capital letter should be outlawed or be painful or something. That’s just weird.

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      I agree, but it’s more common than you’d think.

      I used to work at an organization that used Chromebooks, which replaces the caps lock key with a search key (same shape, different behaviour). I was surprised at the number of people who struggled with their passwords because they would hit the “search” key, enter a single letter, and then hit “search” again. It took me a little while to figure it out because… Who does that?

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        That’s still insane though… I will sometimes hit caps lock once or twice on a password screen to make sure it’s not on.

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          Oh I completely agree. There is a reason it took me a while and careful observation before I figured it out.

          I assume it’s part of, or started as, a little password dance. Something like, “abc123DEF”.

          Or maybe it just comes from the idea that only a single key can be pressed at a time?

          Either way I completely agree, insane.

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    As for it feeling quicker due to it being a fresh install, don’t really expect it to slow down. Windows always slows down over time because its Registry is clogged, the code gets more bloated over time with updates, and the filesystem is kind of trash.

    Linux generally stays quite nimble and quick in the long-term. It’s why you can take a decade old computer and still accomplish quite a bit on it with Linux.

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      My single longest install of Linux was 6 years and only ended because I built a new PC. Windows I generally reinstalled at least every two years. I couldn’t stand how slow it got.

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      yeah i was just thinking this the other day. i have alot of packages on my linux boot. i run mysql,postgres all kinds of stuff, many python versions, still fast as the first day i installed it. windows on the other hand starts bogging down fast. i keep my windows boot withonly the bare minimum of things and turn off almost everything from the start up, woth the hopes of keeping it useable.

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    Welcome to Linux. You’ll learn, and for the better, by using it more. Like picking up anything new there will be difficulties at times, but well worth it. The first positive on your list is good enough reason that makes any difficulties worth surpassing.

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    The lingering feeling of instability. This is my second install of OpenSUSE, after I messed up something leading to my computer having some files which it wanted to update, but using urls which didn’t exist. After this, I’ve been feeling a bit insecure and afraid of doing something that ruins my installation. I know there’s the saying that Linux ‘just works’, but I’ve never messed up a Windows installation…

    IMO this is a right of passage. Sure, windows babies you to the point where you can’t really mess much up, but that doesn’t mean its impossible to mess up. I’ve also borked Windows installs just by using them over long periods of time. You bork linux a few times and learn what not to do.

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    ive been using linux for about 4 years now and I still have no idea where the things are kept. Im getting the feel for it slowly like everything flatpak is in a hidden folder .var my solution is to just make a simlink to folders I want to vist and put them in my home folder.

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        Config files for programs are in hidden folders in ~ (as you discovered) OR in ~/.config OR in ~/.local/share (yeah it’s a bit of a mess)

        Config files for flatpaks can be found under ~/.var/app (usually, some flatpaks have permissions to write outside that directory).

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          Just want to point out that, while it’s a mess in practice, there is a correct place for these files and the problem is that many applications ignore it. Configuration files should be written to an aptly named folder in ~/.config/ (or more precisely, in $XDG_CONFIG_HOME which is set to ~/.config/ in most systems). ~/.local/share/ (or $XDG_DATA_HOME, respectively) is for user data, which is different from config.

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    @DonAntonioMagino making backups of your home folder (/home/username) is a great ways to survive reinstalls. also install discovery if you don’t have it. its an easy way to install and find software… i dont know opensuse package manager… but it should be a simple command

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    The lingering feeling of instability. This is my second install of OpenSUSE, after I messed up something leading to my computer having some files which it wanted to update, but using urls which didn’t exist. After this, I’ve been feeling a bit insecure and afraid of doing something that ruins my installation. I know there’s the saying that Linux ‘just works’, but I’ve never messed up a Windows installation…

    Regarding this. How often did you mess your windows installation when you started? Because I started around 8 years old with MSDOS and I screwed Windows many times, eventually I learnt what to do and what not.

    Regarding software today it’s easier than it’s ever been in Linux. With flatpack, appimages and the different repos.

    Anyway there is this scene in the show “Bojack Horseman” where the titular character was trying to do some exercise by running up a hill and he is tired, exhausted, another characters pass by and says: “It gets easier”, “uh?” answers Bojack, “It gets easier but you have to do it every day, that’s the hard part”.

    What that means is, it will get easier, specially when you are young, but you have to be constant, you have to keep messing around and do backups.

    Here is the scene from Bojack

    That being said, I am huge fan of opensuse and debian but eventually on my desktop I went with endeavour-os, the only time I screwed it up it was easy to fix it by using the live-iso editing the config files and fixed, now I keep a journal when I change anything :)

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    • Can’t find anything: everything is meant to be searchable in lieu of having a programs menu and such. Hit your meta key (Winkey) and start typing to find or launch something, use URL bar in your file manager to search for names or content of files…etc. You can also just set icons for things if you wish.
    • Instability: there is almost zero chance of you being able to destroy your environment so bad that it would require a reinstall of the OS. Since it’s just flat files on a disk and no central registry like Windows, everything can be repaired quite simply, you just need to be familiar with how.
    • Capslock: unfamiliar with your intended behavior as I’ve never used Capslock like that before, but I bet there is a solution for this if you just search around. Input behavior is totally customizable.
    • Desktop icons: no idea what that could be, but as mentioned above, most DE’s have or are moving away from desktop as a launch source.
    • Firefox: ‘about:config’ has these settings
    • Software center is just one GUI for finding things. You can install whatever you want however you want, and that’s just up to you. If you find some piece of something you want to run, the preferred method is also using a package for your OS’s package manager, but that’s just for convenience and not a hard rule. There is no “best” solution, just good habits.

    Good luck!

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      Instability: there is almost zero chance of you being able to destroy your environment so bad that it would require a reinstall of the OS. Since it’s just flat files on a disk and no central registry like Windows, everything can be repaired quite simply, you just need to be familiar with how.

      Yeah, but I spent half a day faffing about trying to see what I’d done wrong and searching online for hints. I suppose I didn’t literally ruin my installation, but I’d messed it up enough for me to not know how to fix it, so I gave up.

      Firefox: ‘about:config’ has these settings

      That’s the first thing you find online, pretty much. Changing settings in about:config doesn’t work (in this case), and I’ve followed instructions involving adding an autoconfig.cfg file to the Firefox installation folder, which also didn’t work. But yeah, like I said, I tried some things and have not been able to get Firefox to start a fresh session on startup, after shutting down the computer with it still open.

      Thanks for the advice!