Russian President Vladimir Putin said on Thursday that Russia had trapped the remaining Ukrainian soldiers in its western Kursk region, where they have held on for more than seven months in one of the most important battles of the war.
Russian President Vladimir Putin said on Thursday that Russia had trapped the remaining Ukrainian soldiers in its western Kursk region, where they have held on for more than seven months in one of the most important battles of the war.
The Russia cannot win without additional troops either. And they cannot get those.
Eventually the Russia’s economy will collapse, and at that point it will lose the war and has to leave Ukraine.
Ukraine cannot win the war, but has enough support that it also will not lose it. The Russia cannot win the war, and doesn’t have enough support to avoid eventually losing it.
Once the Russia has lost the war, it has to leave Ukraine, because then there’s nothing it can do to stop Ukrainian forces from taking its territories back.
It is irrelevant that Ukraine cannot win the war, since the Russia is doomed to lose it.
Yeah but when has a grand empire ever actually bankrupted itself fighting some small, tenacious enemy? /s
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Lol. This comment was literally censored for saying Ukraine can’t win without additional troops.
The reason given was “low-effort.” I swear, you people are just as bad if not worse than the Russians with how much you censor information you don’t like.
Okay, any idea of what the propaganda mill has told me, then?
The facts at hand tell that in the latter half of year 2024 Ukraine received zero military aid from USA. Because of that, the Russia was able to advance at a surpricingly fast pace. Because of this, they managed to conquer as much as 0.7 % of Ukraine’s total territory during that year. Under one percent. When they were fast.
They almost never use tanks anymore, but ATV’s, because they have only the tanks they are able to produce. Which is about 30 per month. Which is a lot, to be honest, but it’s easy for Ukraine to destroy at least one Russian tank per day. And that makes 30 per month as well…
The Russia has had a stable recruitment ability of 25 000 to 35 000 soldiers per month, and are currently losing 1000 to 1400 per day. That makes about 40 000 soldiers lost per month. By far not all of those are deaths, but all of those are permanent losses through very serious wounds or death. When you recruit 35 000 soldiers and lose 40 000, you are not gaining any additional troops. You are keeping their numbers approximately stable, but keeping them approximately stable is what Ukraine is able to do as well. Neither side is able to get additional troops.
Please tell me. What is it that the propaganda mill has told me? I did not feel uncomfortable from what you said, because you said nothing with actual content. You said “simply not true”, and left it to that.
Please tell me something that makes me feel uncomfortable.
There you go just looking for an excuse to spew your propagandized talking points.
…okay?
Now it’s time for you to spew your talking points in turn, should you have any.
I’m not here to spread propaganda or justify my indoctrination.
Do you just argue with everyone on the internet that’s looking for an argument? Lol.
Well, no, I don’t.
But here I write because it is useful to continue this conversation until you have really shown that you have zero arguments to back your claim. The conversation will be read by other people who can draw whatever conclusions one can make from a …conversation? like this.
It’s also an example of how pro-Russia argumentation works in general. You won’t get any actual arguments, except that a Jewish president is somehow a nazi. While that’s not the strongest of arguments, at least it is an argument :)
I’m not here to sit and convince you people, especially considering you people cover your ears to any realities you don’t like and censor any information that debunks your propaganda.
Did you think Ukraine was going to retake Crimea? If the answer is YES, then you were a victim of propaganda.
If you think Ukraine can win without additional troops, then you’re still a victim of propaganda and you haven’t learned anything since their failed counteroffensive.
The propaganda war is real on both sides. Just look at how I was censored for saying Ukraine can’t win without additional troops. Are you intelligent enough to recognize how this culture of censoring uncomfortable truths influences your view of the war?
You people can’t fathom that Ukraine is losing because you have no conception of how much information is being controlled for you.
I do not think Ukraine can overpower the Russia’s army as it stands at the moment. It also cannot win (or lose) through military attrition.
Ukraine cannot have a military win over the Russia’s army as it stands at the moment without additional troops.
You’re countering arguments that I have not made. And saying that those arguments that you’re saying but I am not somehow make me a victim of propaganda. The only thing that matters is this combination:
This means, the two militaries are able to keep the front stable until the economy of one of the two countries collapses. Ukraine’s economy is practically unable to collapse, the Russia’s economy is able to collapse and eventually will. And then the war ends.
One thing I’d ask of you: Please stop covering your ears to realities and descend to the level of us mortals. And give an argument that has something to do with Ukraine or the Russia, not just with men made of straw.
Are you going to make an argument of any substance or just keep on with these “you people” attempts to sound superior? If you have something to say, fucking say it instead of just spraying insults at the room.