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      this will be the end of the open internet. Expect login walls and subscriptions everywhere.

      Rising interest rates are doing that, not AI.

      The open Internet is based on a fundamental principal that people like you forget over and over.

      Information should be free and plentiful, and making it free and plentiful benefits the common person. Data and scraping are essential parts of that common good.

      The Internet will survive. The one you think exists - where you get to mooch and demand payment - never existed.

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          The internet where people make information free and for the benefits of the common good died a long time ago.

          It’s very much alive and kicking.

          All of the “silos” literally depend on it continuing to happen and exist only by nature of the fact that they’re still open and easily browsed by individuals. If Reddit turns off access to the average person, Reddit eventually disappears.

          Notably, you can still get to Twitter though nitter.

          You can still get to Reddit through various open source front ends.

          You can still get to YouTube through newpipe.

          You may not remember this, but there have been many attempts to silo the Internet. It always falls as the company that does so stagnates and users eventually abandon ship.

          The few companies with the hundreds of millions of fuck-you money to train an AI will gain more control while also locking down access to their content.

          And you want to give them the monetary incentive and make this future literally inevitable by locking data out of the hands of anyone who can’t pay.

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      They’re saying it is not infringement at all so your statement is simply incorrect.

      This is the correct ruling based on how ml works.

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      Copyright is, at its heart, about the right to make copies. If no direct connection can be made to another work then it is clearly not a copy and therefore…

      Your fears don’t seem plausible, either. A person or company doing AI training only needs 1 single copy. It’s hard to see how that would translate to more than a few extra copies sold; at best, maybe a few dozen or a few hundred in the long run. I can see how going to court over a single copy of each item in their catalog is worth it for the larger corporations but what you fear just doesn’t make financial sense to me.

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          Corporations have been trying to control more and more of what users do and how they do it for longer than AI has been a “threat”. I wouldn’t say AI changes anything. At most, maybe, it might accelerate things a little. But if I had to guess, the corpos are already moving as fast as they can with locking everything down for the benefit of no one, but them.